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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    I remember the days when you guys used to ridicule the left because the chances of dying from COVID were so small.

    Ah, nostalgia.
    Actually, the chances remain relatively small unless you happen to be in a high risk group...

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    why do you blame America and not putting where it deserves on China?

    Also look at T-cell memory for fighting re-infections; although it's possible we might need boosters like the flu
    Darn you China, also.

    How's that?

    Am I allowed to blame both? China for unleashing this on the world, and America for being stupid about stopping it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Actually, the chances remain relatively small unless you happen to be in a high risk group...
    And what are the chances of blood clotting w/ the vaccine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    And what are the chances of blood clotting w/ the vaccine?
    Low to very low. That doesn't change that someone with this health issue should weigh getting the vaccine more carefully, not to mention possibly taking it slower than those with no real risk of this happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Low to very low. That doesn't change that someone with this health issue should weigh getting the vaccine more carefully, not to mention possibly taking it slower than those with no real risk of this happening.
    I mean, I'm not going to argue that. It's reasonable.

    In general, I'm a bit dismayed by the politicization of the vaccines - just like masks. COVID is bad news, and we have a chance to rid ourselves of it. I'm concerned we won't, and that we may not even achieve herd immunity. The #'s opposed to vaccinations are too large right now. That is always changing, but it may not be enough.

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    I don't fully understand Tony Fauci's official function in this matter.

    Is it his call to document the concrete criteria referenced in the thread title?

    We all do a lot of speculating without knowing hard facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    Darn you China, also.

    How's that?

    Am I allowed to blame both? China for unleashing this on the world, and America for being stupid about stopping it?
    no country can "stop it"

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    Fauci talks about herd immunity, too - no one talks about vaccinating everyone, because a large % of the country won't get vaccinated regardless.

    Since the vaccines don't give immunity for life, that likely means COVID is here to stay. Congrats, America.
    Send a thank you card to the CCP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    no country can "stop it"
    Their narrative says Trump could have stopped it lol.

    There was one chance to stop this thing in its tracks and it had nothing to do with Trump. Once it was loose on a global scale it’s ‘virus is gonna virus’.

    For example, let’s stipulate that the narrative is true: Trump could have stopped it or sufficiently mitigated transmission last year. That was impossible but we’ll stipulate that it’s true.

    Well, what about the rest of the world? We’re we willing to close ourselves off to immigration—effectively totally? For how long? Years, until Covid was eradicated? Trump has been gone for months and already two different variants got here and are being transmitted regardless of masking and etc.

    The virus was going to get here and the virus was largely going to do its thing once it got here. Because the CCP allowed the pandemic to get up and running by *knowingly* allowing their nationals to board international flights, by the millions, while they were lying about human to human transmission.

    The CCP owns the CCP virus. End of discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Their narrative says Trump could have stopped it lol.

    There was one chance to stop this thing in its tracks and it had nothing to do with Trump. Once it was loose on a global scale it’s ‘virus is gonna virus’.

    For example, let’s stipulate that the narrative is true: Trump could have stopped it or sufficiently mitigated transmission last year. That was impossible but we’ll stipulate that it’s true.

    Well, what about the rest of the world? We’re we willing to close ourselves off to immigration—effectively totally? For how long? Years, until Covid was eradicated? Trump has been gone for months and already two different variants got here and are being transmitted regardless of masking and etc.

    The virus was going to get here and the virus was largely going to do its thing once it got here. Because the CCP allowed the pandemic to get up and running by *knowingly* allowing their nationals to board international flights, by the millions, while they were lying about human to human transmission.

    The CCP owns the CCP virus. End of discussion.
    So, there is nothing we can do about it now? COVID is just here to stay?

    Or is it possible that if enough people get vaccinated, it can go the way of polio?

    Also, the healthcare community is basically unanimous now that we could have saved 10's of thousands more lives with more emphasis on masks & distancing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    So, there is nothing we can do about it now? COVID is just here to stay?

    Or is it possible that if enough people get vaccinated, it can go the way of polio?
    The reds refuse to get vaccinated ...just because. That makes herd impossible to achieve. We will watch it linger and morph into other forms. Some will be more dangerous. But at least they did not get vaccinated. That is called winning.
    Covid will not just stay, it will become more virulent. The refusniks will blame Fauci.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Send a thank you card to the CCP.
    they'd rather blame Trump, and not give credit for OPWarp Speed

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    So, there is nothing we can do about it now? COVID is just here to stay?

    Or is it possible that if enough people get vaccinated, it can go the way of polio?

    Also, the healthcare community is basically unanimous now that we could have saved 10's of thousands more lives with more emphasis on masks & distancing.
    since COVID is so infectious , and because Biden is letting illegal in ( who carry about 10% positive rate)
    at record rates- what do you think is the possibility of stopping it?
    zilch

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    since COVID is so infectious , and because Biden is letting illegal in ( who carry about 10% positive rate)
    at record rates- what do you think is the possibility of stopping it?
    zilch
    It’s like that doesn’t matter lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    So, there is nothing we can do about it now? COVID is just here to stay?

    Or is it possible that if enough people get vaccinated, it can go the way of polio?

    Also, the healthcare community is basically unanimous now that we could have saved 10's of thousands more lives with more emphasis on masks & distancing.
    If only that could be proven lol.

    I’m recently retired healthcare and I know more than a few healthcare people who disagree with the ‘unanimous’ healthcare community. In fact, in my healthcare circle of friends there are only a few that feel strongly about masks; the majority are meh; and there are several that are strongly skeptical like myself.
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