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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    So you would just let Putin get scot free away with the massive and unprecedented SolarWinds hack of federal agencies?

    So your and Trump's relationship to Putin is "Thank you sir, may I have another!?"
    you should know better
    Do we let China and Iran just get away with hacking?

    If you want to improve relations past the Cold War 2.0 stage you need both a carrot and a stick.
    The stick doesnt work by itself- it just leaves us isolated

    You start with lower level talks..
    Russia said yesterday now is not yet the time for the proposed Biden summit with Putin

    Biden isn't afflicted with the Russian hoax - he can chart any course he wants. he's too stupid to do anything else

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    So you think Putin is amassing troops at the Ukraine border to help you prove those lies?

    When you constantly side with Russia people begin to wonder about you
    maybe if we stopped sending warships into the Black Sea? at least we did that

    U.S. Cancels Warships Deployment to Black Sea
    https://www.usnews.com/news/world/ar...omatic-sources
    Russia, which warned Washington to stay far away from Crimea and its Black Sea coast, says it's build-up
    is a three-week snap military drill to test combat readiness in response to what it calls threatening behaviour from NATO. It has said the exercise is due to wrap up within two weeks.

    Ahead of the notification about U.S. warships, Russia's navy on Wednesday began a drill in the Black Sea that rehearsed firing at surface and air targets. NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg called on Moscow on Tuesday to end its troop build-up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    you should know better
    Do we let China and Iran just get away with hacking?

    If you want to improve relations past the Cold War 2.0 stage you need both a carrot and a stick.
    The stick doesnt work by itself- it just leaves us isolated

    You start with lower level talks..
    Russia said yesterday now is not yet the time for the proposed Biden summit with Putin

    Biden isn't afflicted with the Russian hoax - he can chart any course he wants. he's too stupid to do anything else
    ^ So the short and unfiltered answer is you and Trump would let Putin get scot free away with the massive and unprecedented SolarWinds hack of federal agencies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    ^ So the short and unfiltered answer is you and Trump would let Putin get scot free away with the massive and unprecedented SolarWinds hack of federal agencies.
    no the answer is what i gave.
    You cant sanction by itself to change behaviors -it rarely works -it just hardens positions
    At least w/ South Africa it was coupled with divestment - and you had a partner that was working to change apartheid in Mandella to go to. internal and external pressures

    Like I said.. low level talks
    get some achievable goals
    get some momentum for any kind of improvement
    Give Russia a path (it desperately wants economic relief) - not just a whack on the nose

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    no the answer is what i gave.
    You cant sanction by itself to change behaviors -it rarely works -it just hardens positions
    At least w/ South Africa it was coupled with divestment - and you had a partner that was working to change apartheid in Mandella to go to.
    Sanctioning countries doesn't work, but sanctioning individuals does.

    If Trump was sanctioned in the US and couldn't even open a bank account, he'd fucking leave.
    When I die, turn me into a brick and use me to cave in the skull of a fascist


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Money quote:


    Trump refused to defend the USA, and he became Putin's little subservient lapdog.
    Putin didn't put 80,000 troops on the Ukraine border...while Trump was in office!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    you should know better
    Do we let China and Iran just get away with hacking?

    If you want to improve relations past the Cold War 2.0 stage you need both a carrot and a stick.
    The stick doesnt work by itself- it just leaves us isolated

    You start with lower level talks..
    Russia said yesterday now is not yet the time for the proposed Biden summit with Putin

    Biden isn't afflicted with the Russian hoax - he can chart any course he wants. he's too stupid to do anything else
    A thread based on a deflection. No shock. Trump did nothing about Russia until he was forced and it was all paint, with no depth. We had a president who hid the official discussions with Putin. Why? Trump did not allow transcribing of talks and he trusted Putin's translators. It is easy to see how wrong that was and why he did it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    Putin didn't put 80,000 troops on the Ukraine border...while Trump was in office!
    So your position is that you would let Putin get away scot free with the massive Solar Winds hack of our government agencies.

    I do not give a rat's ass if four Russian divisions are conducting exercises near the Ukraine border. We conduct excercises on Russia's borders with out Lithianian and Estonian NATO allies.

    Get back to me if this Russian military exercise turns into an invasion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Money quote:


    Trump refused to defend the USA .
    protect them from what?....as I recall the so called Russian election interference happened in 2016 when Obama was president......
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    protect them from what?....as I recall the so called Russian election interference happened in 2016 when Obama was president......
    Yeah genius, Obama was president when Russia helped Trump win the election that was in progress at the end of his term. That was dumb, even for you. Obama had a talk with Putin, but he had no power since his 2nd term was ending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    So you think Putin is amassing troops at the Ukraine border to help you prove those lies?

    When you constantly side with Russia people begin to wonder about you



    putin is amassing troops because he thinks biden is a bitch.,

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Sure

    You really love Putin huh


    Not as much as you love horse cock. *shrug*

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    ...and you know Little Commie Annie is PISSED now!! lol



    U.S. imposes sweeping sanctions targeting Russian economy

    Source: Axios


    The Biden administration announced it will sanction dozens of Russian officials and entities, expel 10 diplomats from the U.S., and set new restrictions on buying sovereign debt in response to the massive SolarWinds hack of federal agencies and interference in the 2020 election.

    Why it matters: The sweeping acts of retaliation are aimed at imposing heavy economic costs on Russia, after years of sanctions that have failed to deter an increasingly aggressive and authoritarian President Vladimir Putin.

    Details: The administration formally accused Russia's Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) of carrying out the SolarWinds hack, which Microsoft President Brad Smith has called "the largest and most sophisticated attack the world has ever seen." The intelligence community said it has "high confidence" in the assessment.

    The package of sanctions will bar U.S. banks from buying Russian government bonds directly from the the country's central bank, sovereign wealth fund and ministry of finance beginning June 14, complicating Russia's ability to raise money in international capital markets.



    https://www.axios.com/russia-sanctio...9153d1382.html
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    wondering if Trump's ex-boss Putin will further invade Ukraine, how Biden will respond, and to what degree the teabillies root for the Russians

    you know they will, can't help themselves

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