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    It is not "right wing craziness" to point out that the Constitution limits state election law amendments to the state legislatures.

    Changes made by judges, bureaucrats, etc., produce Constitutionally invalid results in those states and no amount of name calling and foot stamping will change that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    When you have near 100 percent of Trumpies believing right-wing craziness, it does not take many in the middle to reach 51 percent. Then Rasmussen leans right, so it is a lock. Trump went to court 65 times and lost every damn one. That was his platform to prove the case and he failed every time. Every recount did the same and he had lots of those too.
    So why is this belief important? Trump lost.
    Correct. And perception is meaningless. The election result is factual, it is not reliant on an ignorant opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taft2016 View Post
    It is not "right wing craziness" to point out that the Constitution limits state election law amendments to the state legislatures.

    Changes made by judges, bureaucrats, etc., produce Constitutionally invalid results in those states and no amount of name calling and foot stamping will change that.
    State legislatures can assign responsibility to whomever they want, including election boards or the Secretary of State. State courts are allowed to review and interpret legislation. All your name calling and foot stomping won't change THAT. You had your day in court. You lost. Get over it.

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    This is almost like the liberal reaction to the birther argument. They zeroed in on whether Obama was born in the USA, when the actionable argument was whether a natural born citizen could have a parent who was not a US citizen.

    The only time the US Supreme Court mentioned it, the court specified "citizen parents" (plural).

    So again, they ignore the readily actionable argument and instead focus on the less actionable one.

    Liberals... so transparent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    State legislatures can assign responsibility to whomever they want, including election boards or the Secretary of State. State courts are allowed to review and interpret legislation. All your name calling and foot stomping won't change THAT. You had your day in court. You lost. Get over it.
    You're wrong across the board.

    In New York State the legislature appointed a commission to determine if the legislature deserved a raise and would abide by their ruling. The legislature cannot delegate spending and taxing to another entity, especially one not answerable to the voters.

    But more specifically, you are wrong in the premise that the legislatures delegated any of these powers and that the courts may usurp them.

    You are dismissed now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taft2016 View Post
    This is almost like the liberal reaction to the birther argument. They zeroed in on whether Obama was born in the USA, when the actionable argument was whether a natural born citizen could have a parent who was not a US citizen.

    The only time the US Supreme Court mentioned it, the court specified "citizen parents" (plural).

    So again, they ignore the readily actionable argument and instead focus on the less actionable one.

    Liberals... so transparent.
    How did that birther thing turn out, anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummie123 View Post
    [I]Washington Examiner

    Stuck: Most still say Biden ‘cheating’ beat Trump

    Paul Bedard 1 day ago




    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...mp/ar-BB1fBLEV

    That is a pretty funny post, even the source he cites has zero to do with what he claims and the Razzy does not say what he implies

    These wingers keep talking about Biden being senile, they themselves are the only ones who still believe that Trump won an election five months ago where Trump got seven million less votes than the other guy

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    How did that birther thing turn out, anyway?
    The courts determined an American citizen has no standing to question whether or not his President is Constitutionally eligible to hold the office.

    Hooray, another step down into tyranny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taft2016 View Post
    You're wrong across the board.

    In New York State the legislature appointed a commission to determine if the legislature deserved a raise and would abide by their ruling. The legislature cannot delegate spending and taxing to another entity, especially one not answerable to the voters.

    But more specifically, you are wrong in the premise that the legislatures delegated any of these powers and that the courts may usurp them.

    You are dismissed now.
    LOL, voting is not spending. Is that a difficult concept for you to grasp. I am 100% RIGHT in my assertion. So say the courts. So why would I give a fuck what you say? There's your sign, hillbilly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taft2016 View Post
    The courts determined an American citizen has no standing to question whether or not his President is Constitutionally eligible to hold the office.

    Hooray, another step down into tyranny.
    The courts ruled that Orly Taitz was full of shit, as were the rest of you birthers. Do you ever get tired of losing? Apparently not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taft2016 View Post
    The courts determined an American citizen has no standing to question whether or not his President is Constitutionally eligible to hold the office.

    Hooray, another step down into tyranny.
    Nah. Birtherism was actually the start of the descent of the GOP into conspiracy and fallacy.

    It's not a real party today. I hope that changes. We need a strong 2-party system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    LOL, voting is not spending. Is that a difficult concept for you to grasp. I am 100% RIGHT in my assertion. So say the courts. So why would I give a fuck what you say? There's your sign, hillbilly.
    No, you're 100% wrong. The state legislature delegated their pay raise to an outside body, who decided to raise my taxes.

    Similarly, in New York we have Industrial Development Agencies who grant property tax breaks to businesses which in turn raises property taxes for single family home owners. Again, unelected bureaucrats raising our taxes, unanswerable to the voters... completely unconstitutional.
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    "Section 201. Powers and Duties of the Secretary of the Commonwealth.--The Secretary of the Commonwealth shall exercise in the manner provided by this act all powers granted to him by this act, and shall perform all the duties imposed upon him by this act, which shall include the following:
    (a) To determine, in accordance with the provisions of this act, the forms of nomination petitions and papers, expense accounts and all other forms and records, the form of which he is required to determine under the provisions of this act.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taft2016 View Post
    No, you're 100% wrong. The state legislature delegated their pay raise to an outside body, who decided to raise my taxes.

    Similarly, in New York we have Industrial Development Agencies who grant property tax breaks to businesses which in turn raises property taxes for single family home owners. Again, unelected bureaucrats raising our taxes, unanswerable to the voters... completely unconstitutional.
    Who cares? Pay raises have nothing to do with voting. Property taxes have nothing to do with voting. Good luck in court. Oh wait. You already lost. 65 times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    When you have near 100 percent of Trumpies believing right-wing craziness, it does not take many in the middle to reach 51 percent. Then Rasmussen leans right, so it is a lock. Trump went to court 65 times and lost every damn one. That was his platform to prove the case and he failed every time. Every recount did the same and he had lots of those too.
    So why is this belief important? Trump lost.
    Because in his heart the OP and the rest of the Cult KNOW that #TRE45ON lost -- and lost soundly to an "old man with dementia." But by pretending that they don't believe it was a righteous election, they think that they can save face. Even if it's got egg dripping down, it's face. lol
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