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    “Democrats and progressives generally believe voting should be a universal right easily available to all citizens. Many conservative and Republican leaders disagree, however, suggesting that American citizens who do not meet such standards shouldn’t vote, or at least should be discouraged from voting.”

    “For example, Andrew McCarthy stated in National Review: “It would be far better if the franchise were not exercised by ignorant, civics-illiterate people." Mississippi Secretary of State Michael Watson, a Republican, warned of the dangers of voting by the “uninformed.” Kevin Williamson, also at National Review, asked whether America “would be better served by having fewer — but better — voters.” Arizona GOP state Rep. John Kavanaugh commented: “Quantity is important, but we have to look at the quality of votes as well.” And so on.”

    “Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett has also articulated the view that Americans don’t have a universal personal right to vote. As an appeals court judge (in a dissenting opinion), she claimed that voting is a civic right belonging not to all citizens but only to virtuous citizens”

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/7186187002/

    Based on the educational level and awareness of many Republican voters, plus those lost in the Fox bubble, “I’d say go for it, starting with your own.

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    Conservatives are ignorant of facts:

    “According to a Reuters poll, 6 in 10 Republicans believe former President Donald Trump won the 2020 presidential election, although he lost by over 7 million votes; and about half of GOP voters believe the Jan. 6 Capitol attack was a left-wing "false flag" operation and/or a "peaceful protest" although about 140 law enforcement officers were injured, one was killed and two died by suicide”

    “Even more shocking, a poll conducted by the Survey Center on American Life showed that nearly 3 in 10 Republicans believe the QAnon fantasy, for instance, “Donald Trump has been secretly fighting a group of child sex traffickers that include prominent Democrats and Hollywood elites”

    “As recently as December 2017, 51% of Republicans in a YouGov survey said they thought former President Barack Obama was born in Kenya — despite ample evidence that he was born in the United States and exactly zero evidence that he was born anywhere else.”

    “The level of civic illiteracy and ignorance among Republican voters regarding COVID-19 is also disturbing. For example, in a poll analysis from Brookings in early September, 41% of Republicans believed the flu (about 22,000 deaths each year) or automobile accidents (more than 32,000 deaths per year) caused more deaths than COVID-19 (which killed about 375,000 Americans in 2020). That is impressively out of touch with reality.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    “Republicans say ignorant people shouldn't vote”
    Do you think ignorant people should be voting? People who aren't paying attention and don't understand the issues? Should they be encouraged to go out and vote anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    “Democrats and progressives generally believe voting should be a universal right easily available to all citizens. Many conservative and Republican leaders disagree, however, suggesting that American citizens who do not meet such standards shouldn’t vote, or at least should be discouraged from voting.”

    “For example, Andrew McCarthy stated in National Review: “It would be far better if the franchise were not exercised by ignorant, civics-illiterate people." Mississippi Secretary of State Michael Watson, a Republican, warned of the dangers of voting by the “uninformed.” Kevin Williamson, also at National Review, asked whether America “would be better served by having fewer — but better — voters.” Arizona GOP state Rep. John Kavanaugh commented: “Quantity is important, but we have to look at the quality of votes as well.” And so on.”

    “Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett has also articulated the view that Americans don’t have a universal personal right to vote. As an appeals court judge (in a dissenting opinion), she claimed that voting is a civic right belonging not to all citizens but only to virtuous citizens”

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/7186187002/

    Based on the educational level and awareness of many Republican voters, plus those lost in the Fox bubble, “I’d say go for it, starting with your own.
    I disagree we cant stop all democrats from voting just because they are ignorant

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    “Democrats and progressives generally believe voting should be a universal right easily available to all citizens. Many conservative and Republican leaders disagree, however, suggesting that American citizens who do not meet such standards shouldn’t vote, or at least should be discouraged from voting.”

    “For example, Andrew McCarthy stated in National Review: “It would be far better if the franchise were not exercised by ignorant, civics-illiterate people." Mississippi Secretary of State Michael Watson, a Republican, warned of the dangers of voting by the “uninformed.” Kevin Williamson, also at National Review, asked whether America “would be better served by having fewer — but better — voters.” Arizona GOP state Rep. John Kavanaugh commented: “Quantity is important, but we have to look at the quality of votes as well.” And so on.”

    “Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett has also articulated the view that Americans don’t have a universal personal right to vote. As an appeals court judge (in a dissenting opinion), she claimed that voting is a civic right belonging not to all citizens but only to virtuous citizens”

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/7186187002/

    Based on the educational level and awareness of many Republican voters, plus those lost in the Fox bubble, “I’d say go for it, starting with your own.
    “Republicans say ignorant people shouldn't vote” 74 million people voted for Trump in the last election, can't be no more ignorant then that?!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirthinksalot View Post
    Do you think ignorant people should be voting? People who aren't paying attention and don't understand the issues? Should they be encouraged to go out and vote anyway?
    Anyone who is a citizen should be allowed to vote

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulletbob View Post
    I disagree we cant stop all democrats from voting just because they are ignorant
    “all,” perhaps not, but the GOP, you, are certainly doing their best to make it difficult for some people to vote, and it has nothing to do with being “ignorant”

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Anyone who is a citizen should be allowed to vote
    I didn't ask if the should be allowed to vote. I asked if they should be encouraged to vote. There's kind of a big difference anchovies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirthinksalot View Post
    Do you think ignorant people should be voting? People who aren't paying attention and don't understand the issues? Should they be encouraged to go out and vote anyway?
    That would make every conservative on this forum ineligible to vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    That would make every conservative on this forum ineligible to vote.
    Again, you illiterate. I asked if they should be encouraged to vote, not if they should be eligible.

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    I know what you said. My statement stands. Now go fuck yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    “all,” perhaps not, but the GOP, you, are certainly doing their best to make it difficult for some people to vote, and it has nothing to do with being “ignorant”
    how is the gop making it hard for people to vote , O yes by wanting people to have a ID like they do for health insurance bank transactions , health care , drivers licenses , buying a gun , etc dam those GOP types expecting people to prove they really are who they say they are and infringing on criminals , and illegals right

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirthinksalot View Post
    Do you think ignorant people should be voting? People who aren't paying attention and don't understand the issues? Should they be encouraged to go out and vote anyway?
    If ignorance was a disqualifer not many members of this forum would be able to vote. Anyway, "virtue" isn't a threshold in either Federal or State constitutions. The Founders thought it should be and so it was one of the original, but short lasting, rationales for the Electoral College.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    “Democrats and progressives generally believe voting should be a universal right easily available to all citizens. Many conservative and Republican leaders disagree, however, suggesting that American citizens who do not meet such standards shouldn’t vote, or at least should be discouraged from voting.”

    “For example, Andrew McCarthy stated in National Review: “It would be far better if the franchise were not exercised by ignorant, civics-illiterate people." Mississippi Secretary of State Michael Watson, a Republican, warned of the dangers of voting by the “uninformed.” Kevin Williamson, also at National Review, asked whether America “would be better served by having fewer — but better — voters.” Arizona GOP state Rep. John Kavanaugh commented: “Quantity is important, but we have to look at the quality of votes as well.” And so on.”

    “Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett has also articulated the view that Americans don’t have a universal personal right to vote. As an appeals court judge (in a dissenting opinion), she claimed that voting is a civic right belonging not to all citizens but only to virtuous citizens”

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/7186187002/

    Based on the educational level and awareness of many Republican voters, plus those lost in the Fox bubble, “I’d say go for it, starting with your own.
    "Ignorant people" is generally Republican code words for minorities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirthinksalot View Post
    Do you think ignorant people should be voting? People who aren't paying attention and don't understand the issues? Should they be encouraged to go out and vote anyway?
    They are impacted by political decisions like anyone else. There are people nuts enough to think Trump win the election and was cheated out of his victory. Should those people vote? That has been proven false over and over. We used to mandate Political Science in college and high school. Perhaps we should do that again. If we are a society turning Idiocracy into a future documentary, we deserve what we will face.

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