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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Actually Dr. Gupta doesn't believe this; it's #TRE45ON's former CDC Redfield pushing the bullshit:

    "Dr. Robert Redfield, the former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), says that he believes the novel coronavirus escaped from a lab in Wuhan, according to news reports. However, many experts have rejected that theory as unlikely.

    "In an interview with CNN released Friday (March 26), Redfield stressed that this was his "opinion" on the origins of the virus, and he did not cite any evidence for that theory. "I'm allowed to have opinions now," he said.

    "I'm of the point of view that I still think the most likely etiology of this pathogen in Wuhan was from a laboratory, you know, escaped," Redfield told CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta. "Other people don't believe that, that's fine. Science will eventually figure it out."

    https://www.livescience.com/robert-r...ab-escape.html

    The interview can be found here.
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    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Everyone seemed to like Gupta’s opinions till this one came along. It’s WHO’s *opinion* that it didn’t come from the lab.

    Care to guess why no one can prove their opinions?

    And why do the lefties seem as though they have a dog in the fight?
    it's amazing.
    they defend the CCP for some twisted mindset about Trump...I cant even bend my mind to figure out their "reasoning"

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    The OP link says it is unresolved.
    Bingo

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    Ain't no conspiracy that it got 'ole Joe "elected."
    Naw, what got Joe elected is the fuck up who couldn’t respond to the crisis.

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    But WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said he does not believe the team's assessment of the lab leak possibility was extensive enough.

    "Although the team has concluded that a laboratory leak is the least likely hypothesis, this requires further investigation, potentially with additional missions involving specialist experts, which I am ready to deploy," he told WHO members, according to a written statement.

    Jamie Metzl, a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council, has been an outspoken proponent of such an investigation.

    "I'm not saying that I am certain that COVID-19 stems from an accidental lab leak, but it would be absolutely irresponsible and could only be politically motivated to say that it's not even worth having a full investigation," he said.

    A State Department fact sheet from mid-January highlights reports of sick lab researchers at the Wuhan Institute of Virology in the fall of 2019, notes the dangerous type of coronavirus research the lab was conducting and said there was also secret military activity at the lab.

    China has refuted the claims. Critics of the WHO report, such as Metzl, said the expert team that visited the lab took their Chinese interlocutors at their word and didn't dig. Metzl said that's insufficient.
    https://www.npr.org/2021/03/31/98315...e-of-who-repor

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    Fact Sheet: Activity at the Wuhan Institute of Virology
    https://2017-2021.state.gov/fact-she...ogy/index.html

    Illnesses inside the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV):

    The U.S. government has reason to believe that several researchers inside the WIV became sick in autumn 2019, before the first identified case of the outbreak, with symptoms consistent with both COVID-19 and common seasonal illnesses. This raises questions about the credibility of WIV senior researcher Shi Zhengli’s public claim that there was “zero infection” among the WIV’s staff and students of SARS-CoV-2 or SARS-related viruses.
    Accidental infections in labs have caused several previous virus outbreaks in China and elsewhere, including a 2004 SARS outbreak in Beijing that infected nine people, killing one.
    The CCP has prevented independent journalists, investigators, and global health authorities from interviewing researchers at the WIV, including those who were ill in the fall of 2019. Any credible inquiry into the origin of the virus must include interviews with these researchers and a full accounting of their previously unreported illness.

    2. Research at the WIV:

    Starting in at least 2016 – and with no indication of a stop prior to the COVID-19 outbreak – WIV researchers conducted experiments involving RaTG13, the bat coronavirus identified by the WIV in January 2020 as its closest sample to SARS-CoV-2 (96.2% similar). The WIV became a focal point for international coronavirus research after the 2003 SARS outbreak and has since studied animals including mice, bats, and pangolins.
    The WIV has a published record of conducting “gain-of-function” research to engineer chimeric viruses. But the WIV has not been transparent or consistent about its record of studying viruses most similar to the COVID-19 virus, including “RaTG13,” which it sampled from a cave in Yunnan Province in 2013 after several miners died of SARS-like illness.
    WHO investigators must have access to the records of the WIV’s work on bat and other coronaviruses before the COVID-19 outbreak. As part of a thorough inquiry, they must have a full accounting of why the WIV altered and then removed online records of its work with RaTG13 and other viruses.

    3. Secret military activity at the WIV:

    Secrecy and non-disclosure are standard practice for Beijing. For many years the United States has publicly raised concerns about China’s past biological weapons work, which Beijing has neither documented nor demonstrably eliminated, despite its clear obligations under the Biological Weapons Convention.
    Despite the WIV presenting itself as a civilian institution, the United States has determined that the WIV has collaborated on publications and secret projects with China’s military. The WIV has engaged in classified research, including laboratory animal experiments, on behalf of the Chinese military since at least 2017.
    The United States and other donors who funded or collaborated on civilian research at the WIV have a right and obligation to determine whether any of our research funding was diverted to secret Chinese military projects at the WIV.

    Today’s revelations just scratch the surface of what is still hidden about COVID-19’s origin in China. Any credible investigation into the origin of COVID-19 demands complete, transparent access to the research labs in Wuhan, including their facilities, samples, personnel, and record

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    All Gupta said was that the virus came from the Wuhan lab. Does that somehow rule out intent on the CCP’s part?

    Care to explain how that works?
    The two people you’re relying on here are both pointing to accidental release. And they both say it’s all unresolved anyway.

    Sad fucking cherry pickers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    CNN Chief Medical Correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta has broken ranks with his network to voice support for former CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield's belief that the virus that causes COVID-19 most likely escaped accidentally from a lab in Wuhan.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dai...ab-theory.html
    _____________

    The Deplorables continue to get vindicated on this thing lol.

    The pandemic began in the same province that had a world class virology lab. Moreover, Politico was reporting in 2018 that diplomats were warning of risky experiments with *Covid* viruses being done there.

    Who wants to bet that the COVID19 virus *didn’t* come from the Wuhan lab?

    What sucks? These facts have always been out there and available to anyone with a Google button yet we’ve been fed a constant stream of misinformation and lies in order to cover the asses of the CCP.

    Good job, Doctor Gupta. Better late than never.
    I am a firm beliver thats what happened , china has a history of issues with its labs and substandard procedures

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    Fact Sheet: Activity at the Wuhan Institute of Virology
    https://2017-2021.state.gov/fact-she...ogy/index.html

    Illnesses inside the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV):

    The U.S. government has reason to believe that several researchers inside the WIV became sick in autumn 2019, before the first identified case of the outbreak, with symptoms consistent with both COVID-19 and common seasonal illnesses. This raises questions about the credibility of WIV senior researcher Shi Zhengli’s public claim that there was “zero infection” among the WIV’s staff and students of SARS-CoV-2 or SARS-related viruses.
    Accidental infections in labs have caused several previous virus outbreaks in China and elsewhere, including a 2004 SARS outbreak in Beijing that infected nine people, killing one.
    The CCP has prevented independent journalists, investigators, and global health authorities from interviewing researchers at the WIV, including those who were ill in the fall of 2019. Any credible inquiry into the origin of the virus must include interviews with these researchers and a full accounting of their previously unreported illness.

    2. Research at the WIV:

    Starting in at least 2016 – and with no indication of a stop prior to the COVID-19 outbreak – WIV researchers conducted experiments involving RaTG13, the bat coronavirus identified by the WIV in January 2020 as its closest sample to SARS-CoV-2 (96.2% similar). The WIV became a focal point for international coronavirus research after the 2003 SARS outbreak and has since studied animals including mice, bats, and pangolins.
    The WIV has a published record of conducting “gain-of-function” research to engineer chimeric viruses. But the WIV has not been transparent or consistent about its record of studying viruses most similar to the COVID-19 virus, including “RaTG13,” which it sampled from a cave in Yunnan Province in 2013 after several miners died of SARS-like illness.
    WHO investigators must have access to the records of the WIV’s work on bat and other coronaviruses before the COVID-19 outbreak. As part of a thorough inquiry, they must have a full accounting of why the WIV altered and then removed online records of its work with RaTG13 and other viruses.

    3. Secret military activity at the WIV:

    Secrecy and non-disclosure are standard practice for Beijing. For many years the United States has publicly raised concerns about China’s past biological weapons work, which Beijing has neither documented nor demonstrably eliminated, despite its clear obligations under the Biological Weapons Convention.
    Despite the WIV presenting itself as a civilian institution, the United States has determined that the WIV has collaborated on publications and secret projects with China’s military. The WIV has engaged in classified research, including laboratory animal experiments, on behalf of the Chinese military since at least 2017.
    The United States and other donors who funded or collaborated on civilian research at the WIV have a right and obligation to determine whether any of our research funding was diverted to secret Chinese military projects at the WIV.

    Today’s revelations just scratch the surface of what is still hidden about COVID-19’s origin in China. Any credible investigation into the origin of COVID-19 demands complete, transparent access to the research labs in Wuhan, including their facilities, samples, personnel, and record
    The U.S. government does not know exactly where, when, or how the COVID-19 virus—known as SARS-CoV-2—was transmitted initially to humans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    What got Joe elected is the incompetence of the bozo who botched the handling of the virus.

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    what should he have done that he didn't

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    What got Joe elected is the incompetence of the bozo who botched the handling of the virus.

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    100%. Had Trump done what Biden is doing, he would have waltzed back into the White House. But he can't help himself. He was incapable of that type of response to a crisis. Because it isn't about him.

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    Biden doesnt GAF.. nor does Blinken -not a word about it on Bidens phone call with Xi -or the disastrous Anchorage meeting where the CCP mocked the USA

    China continues biological weapons research, not reporting it, and for all we know not upgrading lab security.

    Biden won't hold them accountable like Trump did -no reason it couldnt happen again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpet View Post
    The U.S. government does not know exactly where, when, or how the COVID-19 virus—known as SARS-CoV-2—was transmitted initially to humans.
    thats the point moron.
    Fauci et all said it wasnt likely, now we are seeing many reasons it WAS likely

    But dont look for Beijing Biden to press Xi on it.
    he's too busy with "human rights' instead of insuring no more pandemics from China

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    Hello Darth,

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Everyone seemed to like Gupta’s opinions till this one came along. It’s WHO’s *opinion* that it didn’t come from the lab.

    Care to guess why no one can prove their opinions?

    And why do the lefties seem as though they have a dog in the fight?
    The problem for your outlandish argument is that the science is pointing the opposite direction.

    Dogs are animals. The WHO addresses the likelihood of the source of the coronavirus as being from animals:

    WHO report: COVID likely 1st jumped into humans from animals

    "GENEVA (AP) — A joint World Health Organization-China study on the origins of COVID-19 says that transmission of the virus from bats to humans through another animal is the most likely scenario and that a lab leak is “extremely unlikely,” according to a draft copy obtained by The Associated Press."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    100%. Had Trump done what Biden is doing, he would have waltzed back into the White House. But he can't help himself. He was incapable of that type of response to a crisis. Because it isn't about him.
    Biden is only continuing what Trump started.
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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