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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Now that is simply not true. Under federal law, any private citizen can sell to another private citizen in a "private sale" without a FFL. That means that no background check is required.

    The real question here is why do you feel the need to lie to support your side?
    You do understand in many states if as a seller I choose not to run that sale through the NICS system, I am responsible for what that gun does for a period of time. In my state it is one year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    do you even read?

    LOOPHOLE - a means of escape or evasion; a means or opportunity of evading a rule, law, etc.:

    Private sales were SPECIFICALLY exempt from the NICS system. That is NOT evading a rule or law.

    the gun show loophole is a myth. it doesn't exist
    You are looking for a technicality that does not exist. The facts as Biden stated them are true. You can buy a gun at a gun show without any background check, in many states. It is also legal to buy guns in the parking lot of gun stores, in many states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionfish View Post
    You do understand in many states if as a seller I choose not to run that sale through the NICS system, I am responsible for what that gun does for a period of time. In my state it is one year.
    It is not uncommon for guns to be sitting in a NYPD evidence locker for a year before it is reported stolen in West Virginia. There is nothing New York can do about it, because they cannot enforce their tighter gun laws on West Virginia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    You are looking for a technicality that does not exist. The facts as Biden stated them are true. You can buy a gun at a gun show without any background check, in many states. It is also legal to buy guns in the parking lot of gun stores, in many states.
    calling it a loophole is the lie. end of story.
    In a combat situation it is about 16 times better to do something useful and violent right away than to wait and figure out something even more useful and violent later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Pennsylvania is one of the states that have closed the gun show loophole. And yet you are able to buy guns. Sort of makes you think that maybe closing that loophole on a federal level will not be the end of civilization.
    Walt, there is no "loophole" as described at gun shows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    You are looking for a technicality that does not exist. The facts as Biden stated them are true. You can buy a gun at a gun show without any background check, in many states. It is also legal to buy guns in the parking lot of gun stores, in many states.

    I HAVE PARTICIPATED IN DOZENS, IN MULTIPLE STATES; REGARDLESS OF THE LAW, FFLs ARE REQUIRED BY THE PROMOTERS/VENUE FOR INSURANCE REASONS....WITHOUT EXCEPTION IN THE STATES I HAVE DISPLAYED/VENDED IN.
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    TOTAL FUCKING LIE. MYTHOLOGY WRITTEN BY LYING IDIOTD WHOP HAVE NEVER SEEN A GUN SHOW...LIKE YOU.


    NO ONE CAN SELL AT A GUN SHOW WHO DOES NOT HAVE AN FFL, WHICH REQUIRES THEM TO DO BACKGROUND CHECKS.

    ONCE AGAIN, YOYU DDN'T EVEN READ YOUR OWN BULLSHIT; THERE IS NO EXAMPLE OF A GUN SHOW WHERE BACKGROUND CHECKS ARE NOT REQUIRED.
    Speaking of lies...

    While gun shows may require that only FFL vendors can sell guns not all do and in most cases there is no issue with simply going out to the parking lot to make the exchange of gun for cash.

    As Fred Nelson shuffled through a crowded convention center in Tulsa, Oklahoma, a man tapped him on the shoulder to ask about a gun.

    The man knew Nelson was selling thanks to the handwritten menu taped on Nelson’s backpack advertising more than a dozen handguns, rifles and shotguns.

    He offered $300 for a Glock 19 pistol listed at $350.
    https://gunsandamerica.org/story/19/...ly-looks-like/

    The ATF rules for gun shows only prevent non FFL holders from selling guns to residents from other states but allows them to sell to residents of the state where the gun show is being held as long as it doesn't violate local and state laws.
    https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/gu...shows/download
    Non-licensed residents of the State ... May acquire from and dispose of personal firearms to non-licensed residents of the State.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Speaking of lies...

    While gun shows may require that only FFL vendors can sell guns not all do and in most cases there is no issue with simply going out to the parking lot to make the exchange of gun for cash.


    https://gunsandamerica.org/story/19/...ly-looks-like/

    The ATF rules for gun shows only prevent non FFL holders from selling guns to residents from other states but allows them to sell to residents of the state where the gun show is being held as long as it doesn't violate local and state laws.
    https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/gu...shows/download
    Non-licensed residents of the State ... May acquire from and dispose of personal firearms to non-licensed residents of the State.
    Anecdotal. AS I SAID...regardless of what the LAW SAYS, the PROMOTERS/VENUE require FFL vendors for insurance reasons...every show I've been a part of.
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Speaking of lies...

    While gun shows may require that only FFL vendors can sell guns not all do and in most cases there is no issue with simply going out to the parking lot to make the exchange of gun for cash.


    https://gunsandamerica.org/story/19/...ly-looks-like/

    The ATF rules for gun shows only prevent non FFL holders from selling guns to residents from other states but allows them to sell to residents of the state where the gun show is being held as long as it doesn't violate local and state laws.
    https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/gu...shows/download
    Non-licensed residents of the State ... May acquire from and dispose of personal firearms to non-licensed residents of the State.
    A PRIVATE individual selling part of his PRIVATE collection in a parking lot is not a loophole, especially given the fact that PRIVATE sales were specifically exempted from the law
    In a combat situation it is about 16 times better to do something useful and violent right away than to wait and figure out something even more useful and violent later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    Anecdotal. AS I SAID...regardless of what the LAW SAYS, the PROMOTERS/VENUE require FFL vendors for insurance reasons...every show I've been a part of.
    Doesn't matter what few gun shows you are a part of, you are not part of 100% of them in all 50 States. Quit your lying fool, and accept the fact that you are wrong as usual. In fact, I am glad to see that you are now lying about a different "fact" you cannot prove just as you were when I asked you to prove that all gun shows required a licensed dealer to be the seller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    A PRIVATE individual selling part of his PRIVATE collection in a parking lot is not a loophole, especially given the fact that PRIVATE sales were specifically exempted from the law
    Ignorant ass. "Private sales" are the loophole to get away from background checks. Here in Oregon, as in many States, even private sales are subject to background checks by State law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    Ignorant ass. "Private sales" are the loophole to get away from background checks. Here in Oregon, as in many States, even private sales are subject to background checks by State law.
    hey, idiot. If PRIVATE sales were SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDED BY LAW, it's NOT A LOOPHOLE!!!!!!!! are you stupid or just obtuse????
    In a combat situation it is about 16 times better to do something useful and violent right away than to wait and figure out something even more useful and violent later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Speaking of lies...

    While gun shows may require that only FFL vendors can sell guns not all do and in most cases there is no issue with simply going out to the parking lot to make the exchange of gun for cash.


    https://gunsandamerica.org/story/19/...ly-looks-like/

    The ATF rules for gun shows only prevent non FFL holders from selling guns to residents from other states but allows them to sell to residents of the state where the gun show is being held as long as it doesn't violate local and state laws.
    https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/gu...shows/download
    Non-licensed residents of the State ... May acquire from and dispose of personal firearms to non-licensed residents of the State.
    "GOING INTO THE PARKING LOT" IS NOT THE GUN SHOW, EINSTEIN.
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    "GOING INTO THE PARKING LOT" IS NOT THE GUN SHOW, EINSTEIN.
    Neither is a "gunshow" yard sale ... I've gotten several at those ... jest folla da signs

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    hey, idiot. If PRIVATE sales were SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDED BY LAW, it's NOT A LOOPHOLE!!!!!!!! are you stupid or just obtuse????
    And yet another right wing mental midget proudly displays his stupidity:

    loop·hole
    /ˈlo͞opˌ(h)ōl/

    noun
    noun: loophole; plural noun: loopholes

    1. an ambiguity or inadequacy in the law or a set of rules.
    “I do not know if the people of the United States would vote for superior men if they ran for office, but there can be no doubt that such men do not run.”

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