Big government is bullying us!

[Jarod]

Big government is bullying us!


Why is it the same people who claim the above also say.... “If he didn’t want to be shot, he should have obeyed the police!”

[Damocles]

Well, let me try to actually answer that question (I'll pretend it is a serious question for entertainment's sake):

1. Unless the police are the FBI or ATF or something like that they are not "big government", they are local.

2. Folks like you describe here understand that in a situation like that the person with the qualified immunity and a gun has a bit more personal power than the guy who knows that, "Running from the cops is not a capital offense"... and decides that right now is the time to prove it. Folks like you describe here know that they shouldn't be shot in this situation, but also know that qualified immunity and a gun tends to mean that getting into a 2 ton machine and driving anywhere when the police are trying to arrest you would mean that the cops would suddenly "feel threatened" which would increase your chances of getting shot by a multitude...

3. Folks like you describe here also understand that getting arrested is better than getting shot in almost any situation.

so..

4. Folks like you describe here may feel that the government is bullying folks, and may still tell you to simply get arrested and get an attorney rather than run and possibly die.

[Stone]

Big government is bullying us!


Why is it the same people who claim the above also say.... “If he didn’t want to be shot, he should have obeyed the police!”

There is no fucking way you are an attorney. Not even the ambulance chaser type. Im pretty sure you dont have enuff brains to be a garbage man to be honest.

[Jarod]

Well, let me try to actually answer that question (I'll pretend it is a serious question for entertainment's sake):

1. Unless the police are the FBI or ATF or something like that they are not "big government", they are local.

2. Folks like you describe here understand that in a situation like that the person with the qualified immunity and a gun has a bit more personal power than the guy who knows that, "Running from the cops is not a capital offense"... and decides that right now is the time to prove it. Folks like you describe here know that they shouldn't be shot in this situation, but also know that qualified immunity and a gun tends to mean that getting into a 2 ton machine and driving anywhere when the police are trying to arrest you would mean that the cops would suddenly "feel threatened" which would increase your chances of getting shot by a multitude...

3. Folks like you describe here also understand that getting arrested is better than getting shot in almost any situation.

so..

4. Folks like you describe here may feel that the government is bullying folks, and may still tell you to simply get arrested and get an attorney rather than run and possibly die.

When a police officer, from any government, demands something not required of you, like “GET OUT OF YOUR CAR”, with a gun pointed at you... that’s government abusing its power at the most base level. THATS WHERE WE ACTUALLY SHOULD STAND UP, and refuse to be pushed around.

[Jarod]

Demanding you obey the police when they demand something they have no right to demand is the epitome of giving total power to the government.

Excising an officer of the government for shooting someone because they disobeyed an unlawful command is sad!

[Damocles]

When a police officer, from any government, demands something not required of you, like “GET OUT OF YOUR CAR”, with a gun pointed at you... that’s government abusing its power at the most base level. THATS WHERE WE ACTUALLY SHOULD STAND UP, and refuse to be pushed around.

And where we will likely get shot so you can use our death to prove an ineffective point.

I prefer to live and sue for excessive force to the option you present me with.

I can die so you can be ineffective on a message board telling me to die for your freedom, or I can live and work to ensure that freedom while not being a martyr for folks to use on ineffective social media.

[dukkha]

When a police officer, from any government, demands something not required of you, like “GET OUT OF YOUR CAR”, with a gun pointed at you... that’s government abusing its power at the most base level. THATS WHERE WE ACTUALLY SHOULD STAND UP, and refuse to be pushed around.

how about you follow orders and then sue the cops if they exceed their authority?

It's the proportional response,
it doesn't get the person ordered being killed, and it allows the cop to do his street job
but still be subject to sanction if he's exceeding authority

Plus it doesn't get perps and cops dead

[Jarod]

Fucking idiots pretend to believe in independence from government, then demand you obey or be shot!

[Jarod]

how about you follow orders and then sue the cops if they exceed their authority?

It's the proportional response,
it doesn't get the person ordered being killed, and it allows the cop to do his street job
but still be subject to sanction if he's exceeding authority

Plus it doesn't get perps and cops dead

Section 1983 is a very expensive claim to file and prove. You are an idiot. Follow orders or be shot is government run amuck.

[T. A. Gardner]

Big government is bullying us!

Why is it the same people who claim the above also say.... “If he didn’t want to be shot, he should have obeyed the police!”

When did those two things become mutually exclusive?

[Jarod]

And where we will likely get shot so you can use our death to prove an ineffective point.

I prefer to live and sue for excessive force to the option you present me with.

I can die so you can be ineffective on a message board telling me to die for your freedom, or I can live and work to ensure that freedom while not being a martyr for folks to use on ineffective social media.

I’m not telling you to die, but your ilk defends people being shot for not obeying lock step!

[Jarod]

I had a gun pulled on me a few months ago for refusing to get out of my car on a parking ticket. I beat the stupid ticket and formally filed an IA complaint which resulted in nothing. I don’t have any damages... so no lawsuit. No redress.

[dukkha]

I had a gun pulled on me a few months ago for refusing to get out of my car on a parking ticket. I beat the stupid ticket and formally filed an IA complaint which resulted in nothing. I don’t have any damages... so no lawsuit. No redress.

no damages no foul.
The complaint in in the officers jacket - they arent going to take action because the cop simply ordered you out of the car -but there is a citizen complaint in that personnel file

[Jarod]

no damages no foul.
The complaint in in the officers jacket - they arent going to take action because the cop simply ordered you out of the car -but there is a citizen complaint in that personnel file

So, blindly comply with any demand of the government’s enforcer... just so there are no monetary damages, it’s ok, they can do as they please.... even pull a gun.

If I pulled a gun on someone, I’d be in prison.

[dukkha]

Section 1983 is a very expensive claim to file and prove. You are an idiot. Follow orders or be shot is government run amuck.

why file a civil rights case? why do you jump to that?
There are other recourses, if you want justice and not just civil rights payout

I have been jacked up like a hundred time by dope cops back in Baltimore -yet here I am living and breathing and responding to your Woke outrage.
Because i understand cops got a gun, and I dont -and I'm breathing and other jerks are dead because
i kept my cool, and they acted out -which is the "idiot"?