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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    “Likely”

    Do you always rely on suppositional bullshit for your arguments?
    Derek Chauvin subject of complaints before George Floyd’s death


    The Minneapolis cop who was seen kneeling on George Floyd’s neck before he died was involved in three police shootings during his 19 years on the job — and has been the subject of 10 conduct complaints that resulted in no disciplinary action, according to reports.

    In 2006, Derek Chauvin was one of six officers who responded to a stabbing, according to Insider, which cited a 2016 report from the Minnesota activist group Communities United Against Police Brutality.

    Wayne Reyes, who was suspected of stabbing his girlfriend and a friend, was shot dead when he pointed a shotgun at the officers from his truck, according to the report.

    It was unclear during the initial probe which officers fired their weapons, NBC News reported.

    Following protocol, all of the officers — including Chauvin — were put on paid leave during the probe, the outcome of which was unclear. Police did not respond to the network’s request for Chauvin’s service record.

    Also in 2006, Chauvin and seven other cops were named in an unrelated federal lawsuit filed by an inmate at the Minnesota Correctional Facility. The case was dismissed without prejudice the following year, NBC News reported.

    In 2008, Chauvin responded to a 911 domestic assault call, according to the Pioneer Press of St. Paul.

    Chauvin and his partner entered the home, where they confronted Ira Latrell Toles, 21, who was holed up in a bathroom. He tried to flee when Chauvin got inside and grabbed at the cop’s gun.


    The officer fired twice, hitting Toles in the stomach, but he survived, the news outlet reported. Chauvin and his unnamed partner were placed on paid leave during an investigation, also according to standard protocol, according to NBC News.

    Earlier in 2008, Chauvin was awarded a medal of valor for “his response in an incident involving a man armed with a gun,” the Pioneer Press reported, and was recognized again in 2009 by the department.

    In 2011, Chauvin was again placed on temporary leave after he responded with other officers to reports of a shooting.

    Leroy Martinez, 23, was spotted running from the scene while brandishing a handgun and the officers gave chase, according to local reports. Terry Nutter, one of the cops, shot Martinez.

    An eyewitness challenged the police’s claim that Martinez was holding a gun when he was shot, according to Insider, which cited a report in the Star Tribune.

    Delora Iceman told the Star Tribune that Martinez had dropped the pistol and held his arms in the air before cops gunned him down.

    Chauvin, who did not fire his gun, and the other cops were placed on a standard three-day administrative leave during the investigation.

    Then-Police Chief Tim Dolan later said the officers, including Chauvin, “acted appropriately and courageously,” NBC News reported.

    Chauvin also has been the subject of multiple internal complaints, according to a database compiled by Communities United Against Police Brutality.

    In three reviews from the Civilian Review Authority, he was found to have used “demeaning tone,” “derogatory language” and “language – other,” according to Insider.

    He also has been the subject of seven reviews by the local Office of Police Conduct — all of which conclude: “Closed — No discipline.”

    No other details were available on any of the cases.

    https://nypost.com/2020/05/28/cop-in...10-complaints/

    Read it SLUT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Floyd had Fentanyl on board—three times the amount that would be lethal to a normal person.
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    You seem to really enjoy making yourself look silly, Daft Omar 61.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Any time the cops are trying to arrest a person for breaking the law and that person resists arrest and fights with them, if they end up dying as a result of that struggle, I usually see it as an accident and unintentional.

    Especially if the person had potentially lethal drugs in their system, or were fat and out of shape and/or also had drugs in their system or had some potentially lethal medical issue like advanced heart disease.

    The brother in law of a friend had advanced heart disease induced by drug abuse and he died sitting in his recliner.
    Sure. What if the prisoner isn't resisting? Is it okay to kill them then?
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Sure. What if the prisoner isn't resisting? Is it okay to kill them then?
    Why would it be?

    Floyd OTOH, had been very violently resisting just a few minutes earlier therefore, the cops had no way of knowing whether or not he might suddenly begin fighting with them again.

    All these 20/20 hindsight, backseat drivers think they have it all figured out though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Sure. What if the prisoner isn't resisting? Is it okay to kill them then?
    If they had used a stun gun on him, and he had a heart attack and dies would it be murder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    At least I have an argument.

    You just follow popular opinion and kiss its ass.


    Bullshit is no argument. It’s merely bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Then almost ALL cops have bad character according to your self-righteous, superior-minded, bass-ackwards logic.

    But then, you ARE an idiot, so.....
    Nope, I never said anything of the sort. I merely provided the facts about Chauvin.

    When did you suffer your traumatic brain injury?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Any time the cops are trying to arrest a person for breaking the law and that person resists arrest and fights with them, if they end up dying as a result of that struggle, I usually see it as an accident and unintentional.

    Especially if the person had potentially lethal drugs in their system, or were fat and out of shape and/or also had drugs in their system or had some potentially lethal medical issue like advanced heart disease.

    The brother in law of a friend had advanced heart disease induced by drug abuse and he died sitting in his recliner.
    COVID deniers: He was obese. He had diabetes. He would have likely died anyway (right after contracting COVID)

    Nomad: He had drugs in his system. He would likely have died anyway. (right after having that knee on his neck for 9.5 minutes)

    Folks, you just can’t make this shit up. No, wait. Nomad did!

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post


    Bullshit is no argument. It’s merely bullshit.
    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Nope, I never said anything of the sort. I merely provided the facts about Chauvin.

    When did you suffer your traumatic brain injury?
    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    COVID deniers: He was obese. He had diabetes. He would have likely died anyway (right after contracting COVID)

    Nomad: He had drugs in his system. He would likely have died anyway. (right after having that knee on his neck for 9.5 minutes)

    Folks, you just can’t make this shit up. No, wait. Nomad did!
    Re: the above leg-humping nonsense....



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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post


    Bullshit is no argument. It’s merely bullshit.
    If they had used a stun gun on him, and he had a heart attack and dies would it be murder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Re: the above leg-humping nonsense....





    Nomad, the “likely” man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    If they had used a stun gun on him, and he had a heart attack and dies would it be murder?
    No. Especially if all procedures and training were followed. It's the rule breakers who get their asses in trouble. People like Chauvin.

    Let's back up a few years. Was the shooting of Michael Brown by Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson lawful and proper procedure? Yes. It's the Fleeing Felon Rule after Brown assualted Wilson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Why would it be?

    Floyd OTOH, had been very violently resisting just a few minutes earlier therefore, the cops had no way of knowing whether or not he might suddenly begin fighting with them again.

    All these 20/20 hindsight, backseat drivers think they have it all figured out though.
    Awesome. You obviously don't realize it but you just defined the line between lawful force and unlawful force.

    You just admitted Floyd wasn't resisting but Chauvin continued to exert force that eventually killed him.
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    No. Especially if all procedures and training were followed. It's the rule breakers who get their asses in trouble. People like Chauvin.

    Let's back up a few years. Was the shooting of Michael Brown by Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson lawful and proper procedure? Yes. It's the Fleeing Felon Rule after Brown assualted Wilson.
    Rules huh?

    So if i break the speed limit rule and scare u....u have all the drugs etc Floyd had in your system. And u have a heart attack and die. Did i murder you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post


    I've got nothing!!!!
    Obviously.

    The question is, if you know that. why don't you STFU?
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