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    Default We need more Joe Manchins

    It may be hard to believe, but Washington DC wasn't always the way it is now.

    Congressional reps & Senators used to break w/ their party at a pretty healthy clip. There wasn't the enormous pressure there is now to walk in lockstep. A politician's voting record was often a mix of party-line & principle.

    That is sorely missing these days. Politicians who break w/ that lockstep for even a minor issue are vilified and marginalized - not just by their party, but by news networks, talk radio, pundits and even voters.

    We need more independence. We need more Manchins. We don't elect these men & women to go to Washington and pledge allegiance to their party. We need them to vote their conscience and balance that with representing their constituents. Congress needs to work for the good of all the people.

    Manchin makes me nostalgic about the old days. The way he conducts himself is completely separate from ego or some kind of power play. He seeks consensus and a greater good. Kudos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    It may be hard to believe, but Washington DC wasn't always the way it is now.

    Congressional reps & Senators used to break w/ their party at a pretty healthy clip. There wasn't the enormous pressure there is now to walk in lockstep. A politician's voting record was often a mix of party-line & principle.

    That is sorely missing these days. Politicians who break w/ that lockstep for even a minor issue are vilified and marginalized - not just by their party, but by news networks, talk radio, pundits and even voters.

    We need more independence. We need more Manchins. We don't elect these men & women to go to Washington and pledge allegiance to their party. We need them to vote their conscience and balance that with representing their constituents. Congress needs to work for the good of all the people.

    Manchin makes me nostalgic about the old days. The way he conducts himself is completely separate from ego or some kind of power play. He seeks consensus and a greater good. Kudos.
    Well said Bartender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    It may be hard to believe, but Washington DC wasn't always the way it is now.

    Congressional reps & Senators used to break w/ their party at a pretty healthy clip. There wasn't the enormous pressure there is now to walk in lockstep. A politician's voting record was often a mix of party-line & principle.

    That is sorely missing these days. Politicians who break w/ that lockstep for even a minor issue are vilified and marginalized - not just by their party, but by news networks, talk radio, pundits and even voters.

    We need more independence. We need more Manchins. We don't elect these men & women to go to Washington and pledge allegiance to their party. We need them to vote their conscience and balance that with representing their constituents. Congress needs to work for the good of all the people.

    Manchin makes me nostalgic about the old days. The way he conducts himself is completely separate from ego or some kind of power play. He seeks consensus and a greater good. Kudos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    It may be hard to believe, but Washington DC wasn't always the way it is now.

    Congressional reps & Senators used to break w/ their party at a pretty healthy clip. There wasn't the enormous pressure there is now to walk in lockstep. A politician's voting record was often a mix of party-line & principle.

    That is sorely missing these days. Politicians who break w/ that lockstep for even a minor issue are vilified and marginalized - not just by their party, but by news networks, talk radio, pundits and even voters.

    We need more independence. We need more Manchins. We don't elect these men & women to go to Washington and pledge allegiance to their party. We need them to vote their conscience and balance that with representing their constituents. Congress needs to work for the good of all the people.

    Manchin makes me nostalgic about the old days. The way he conducts himself is completely separate from ego or some kind of power play. He seeks consensus and a greater good. Kudos.
    Today’s crop of Democrats would never nominate him for president lol.

    Before you go too far praising Manchin keep in mind he’s Senator of a Red State full of Trump supporters. He doesn’t tilt far left—because he can’t. He’s probably on thin ice with many WV voters as it is. Instead of acting on high minded principles it’s just as likely he’s trying to stay in office and move up the ladder in his own party.

    I actually voted for him last time because I didn’t like the republican. But, that was before I knew what the next few years would bring. I’d very much like to have a do-over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    It may be hard to believe, but Washington DC wasn't always the way it is now.

    Congressional reps & Senators used to break w/ their party at a pretty healthy clip. There wasn't the enormous pressure there is now to walk in lockstep. A politician's voting record was often a mix of party-line & principle.

    That is sorely missing these days. Politicians who break w/ that lockstep for even a minor issue are vilified and marginalized - not just by their party, but by news networks, talk radio, pundits and even voters.

    We need more independence. We need more Manchins. We don't elect these men & women to go to Washington and pledge allegiance to their party. We need them to vote their conscience and balance that with representing their constituents. Congress needs to work for the good of all the people.

    Manchin makes me nostalgic about the old days. The way he conducts himself is completely separate from ego or some kind of power play. He seeks consensus and a greater good. Kudos.
    Understand your argument on Manchin, same might be said for Collins, however, Manchin is from a ruby red State, so he has to walk a fine line

    I might agree with you, however, it is a naive view, one Manchin should know isn’t real. One week after the GOP next takes the Senate Mitch is going to immediately get rid of the filibuster. As he showed in denying Garland even a hearing, he isn’t concerned at all about precedent or tradition. He’ll say it is the “Schumer rule,” or something similar

    As I said, Manchin’s view is naive thinking that compromise is attainable in today’s Senate, and he knows it seeing Mitch put off Obama’s agenda as long as he could supposedly asking for compromise

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    It may be hard to believe, but Washington DC wasn't always the way it is now.

    Congressional reps & Senators used to break w/ their party at a pretty healthy clip. There wasn't the enormous pressure there is now to walk in lockstep. A politician's voting record was often a mix of party-line & principle.

    That is sorely missing these days. Politicians who break w/ that lockstep for even a minor issue are vilified and marginalized - not just by their party, but by news networks, talk radio, pundits and even voters.

    We need more independence. We need more Manchins. We don't elect these men & women to go to Washington and pledge allegiance to their party. We need them to vote their conscience and balance that with representing their constituents. Congress needs to work for the good of all the people.

    Manchin makes me nostalgic about the old days. The way he conducts himself is completely separate from ego or some kind of power play. He seeks consensus and a greater good. Kudos.
    The Ds have been in lock-step as long as I can remember. Then there's the dependable three or 4 Rs who lock-step side with the Ds on any legislation that limits FedCo power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    It may be hard to believe, but Washington DC wasn't always the way it is now.

    Congressional reps & Senators used to break w/ their party at a pretty healthy clip. There wasn't the enormous pressure there is now to walk in lockstep. A politician's voting record was often a mix of party-line & principle.

    That is sorely missing these days. Politicians who break w/ that lockstep for even a minor issue are vilified and marginalized - not just by their party, but by news networks, talk radio, pundits and even voters.

    We need more independence. We need more Manchins. We don't elect these men & women to go to Washington and pledge allegiance to their party. We need them to vote their conscience and balance that with representing their constituents. Congress needs to work for the good of all the people.

    Manchin makes me nostalgic about the old days. The way he conducts himself is completely separate from ego or some kind of power play. He seeks consensus and a greater good. Kudos.
    Fuck Manchin. He needs to get with the Program!

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Understand your argument on Manchin, same might be said for Collins, however, Manchin is from a ruby red State, so he has to walk a fine line

    I might agree with you, however, it is a naive view, one Manchin should know isn’t real. One week after the GOP next takes the Senate Mitch is going to immediately get rid of the filibuster. As he showed in denying Garland even a hearing, he isn’t concerned at all about precedent or tradition. He’ll say it is the “Schumer rule,” or something similar

    As I said, Manchin’s view is naive thinking that compromise is attainable in today’s Senate, and he knows it seeing Mitch put off Obama’s agenda as long as he could supposedly asking for compromise
    Even if the president is a Democrat? That's a pretty far fetched prediction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    It may be hard to believe, but Washington DC wasn't always the way it is now.

    Congressional reps & Senators used to break w/ their party at a pretty healthy clip. There wasn't the enormous pressure there is now to walk in lockstep. A politician's voting record was often a mix of party-line & principle.

    That is sorely missing these days. Politicians who break w/ that lockstep for even a minor issue are vilified and marginalized - not just by their party, but by news networks, talk radio, pundits and even voters.

    We need more independence. We need more Manchins. We don't elect these men & women to go to Washington and pledge allegiance to their party. We need them to vote their conscience and balance that with representing their constituents. Congress needs to work for the good of all the people.

    Manchin makes me nostalgic about the old days. The way he conducts himself is completely separate from ego or some kind of power play. He seeks consensus and a greater good. Kudos.
    I'll drink to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    It may be hard to believe, but Washington DC wasn't always the way it is now.

    Congressional reps & Senators used to break w/ their party at a pretty healthy clip. There wasn't the enormous pressure there is now to walk in lockstep. A politician's voting record was often a mix of party-line & principle.

    That is sorely missing these days. Politicians who break w/ that lockstep for even a minor issue are vilified and marginalized - not just by their party, but by news networks, talk radio, pundits and even voters.

    We need more independence. We need more Manchins. We don't elect these men & women to go to Washington and pledge allegiance to their party. We need them to vote their conscience and balance that with representing their constituents. Congress needs to work for the good of all the people.

    Manchin makes me nostalgic about the old days. The way he conducts himself is completely separate from ego or some kind of power play. He seeks consensus and a greater good. Kudos.
    Manchin isn't a Democrat. His calls for bi partisan legislation are empty rhetoric. He knows that no Republicans will reach across the aisle.
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