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    What is the definition of 'keep and bear'? 'What is the definition of arms'?

    Anything subject to interpretation cannot be considered 'absolute'. Weak argument. I guess someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed. This isn't even controversial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    this is more hyperbole. extremist fallacy. the right to free speech is not the right to slander or libel someone. There is a difference that is easily seen when not being argued by the 'no right is absolute' crowd. Don't be a moron like jarod who argues if rights are absolute, then incarcerated prisoners should have guns...........
    Exactly my point. Government can restrict speech, press, religion, etc. Therefore, those rights are not absolute.

    Obviously the Constitution does not define which restrictions are permissible, so that has become the role of the federal courts.

    Libel and slander are not generally illegal--laws don't prohibit them. But there is a remedy in civil court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Exactly my point. Government can restrict speech, press, religion, etc. Therefore, those rights are not absolute.
    you're missing the point. slander and libel creates harm to others, thus there is no right to slander or libel. that does not mean FREE speech is not absolute

    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Obviously the Constitution does not define which restrictions are permissible, so that has become the role of the federal courts.
    the government has no constitutional authority to define the limits of their power

    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Libel and slander are not generally illegal--laws don't prohibit them. But there is a remedy in civil court.
    exactly. If Libel and Slander were considered free speech, there could be no civil suit. Therefore, Libel and Slander are not considered free speech rights.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    Sorry Joe you demented sod.
    The 2nd Ammendment is part of the Bill of Rights.

    What is it you don't understand about "Shall not be infringed"?
    He's a Democrat like you, therefore routinely ignores the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Badguy View Post
    You're already tolerating "infringement" thanks to the NFA, who's to say you won't tolerate a little more?
    No one wants to address this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Badguy View Post
    No one wants to address this?
    I'll address this, only to blame all the trumpers out there that are responsible for allowing this mindset to not only continue, but flourished under trump with the bumpstock ban as you idiot trumpers shrugged your shoulders by saying 'bumpstocks aren't firearms'..........which only goes to show that most of you are as ignorant about the constitution and the law as most of the left
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Badguy View Post
    No one wants to address this?
    Sure: Americans are now very often both ignorant and cowards.....and so supremely ignorant that they dont know that they suck as humans.
    This illegal illegitimate regime that runs America is at fault...not me.... they do not represent me and I have long objected to their crimes against humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    Sure: Americans are now very often both ignorant and cowards.....and so supremely ignorant that they dont know that they suck as humans.
    that works just as well
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    The only thing that matters is how the court views the Bill of Rights, and it is indeed 'negotiable' in that it is not unlimited. Period. When a personal right is outweighed by a public good, that right takes a back seat. Sorry.
    no.
    the measure isnt the public good - moronic Progs like yourself justify that for anything

    if any regulations do not infringe on individual ownership then they are tolerated
    Of course it goes without saying courts make that decision
    I don't know how you were diverted / You were perverted too
    I don't know how you were inverted / No one alerted you

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    that works just as well
    I do not understand this post.
    This illegal illegitimate regime that runs America is at fault...not me.... they do not represent me and I have long objected to their crimes against humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    The only thing that matters is how the court views the Bill of Rights, and it is indeed 'negotiable' in that it is not unlimited. Period. When a personal right is outweighed by a public good, that right takes a back seat. Sorry.
    where is that written? the exceptions against libel and slander have to do with harm
    against another indy vigil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    Sure: Americans are now very often both ignorant and cowards.....and so supremely ignorant that they dont know that they suck as humans.
    you're a chinese arent you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    you're a chinese arent you?
    You dont pay attention do you....
    This illegal illegitimate regime that runs America is at fault...not me.... they do not represent me and I have long objected to their crimes against humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    You dont pay attention do you....
    sometimes yes. sometmes no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Exactly my point. Government can restrict speech, press, religion, etc. Therefore, those rights are not absolute.

    Obviously the Constitution does not define which restrictions are permissible, so that has become the role of the federal courts.

    Libel and slander are not generally illegal--laws don't prohibit them. But there is a remedy in civil court.
    laws prohibit them. that's why there's a legal remedy doy.

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