The Bill of Rights is NOT negotiable.

[Rune]

Sorry Joe you demented sod.
The 2nd Ammendment is part of the Bill of Rights.

What is it you don't understand about "Shall not be infringed"?

[Flash]

Sorry Joe you demented sod.
The 2nd Ammendment is part of the Bill of Rights.

What is it you don't understand about "Shall not be infringed"?

Does that mean they are absolute? Speech, press, religion....

[/MSG/]

Does that mean they are absolute? Speech, press, religion....

Yes.

[Flash]

Yes.

That makes laws against threats, libel, slander, pornography, child pornography all unconstitutional?

[SmarterthanYou]

That makes laws against threats, libel, slander, pornography, child pornography all unconstitutional?

hyperbolic bullshit. come back with facts and logic

[Flash]

hyperbolic bullshit. come back with facts and logic

Currently court interpretation of the 1st Amendment allows restrictions on free speech involving threats and slander (among others) and interpretations of free press allows restrictions on libel and pornography.

If these rights are absolute (Congress shall make NO law) then these cannot be restricted. Those are facts using logic.

Even your interpretation of constitutional law should be able to follow that logic. If not, then those rights are not absolute.

[/MSG/]

That makes laws against threats, libel, slander, pornography, child pornography all unconstitutional?

It makes blanket prior restraint unconstitutional and more importantly morally wrong.

[Flash]

It makes blanket prior restraint unconstitutional and more importantly morally wrong.

An exception to prior restraint is national security (which has never been applied).

[Concart]

Yes.

SCOTUS disagrees with you. Fundamentally and totally.

[/MSG/]

SCOTUS disagrees with you. Fundamentally and totally.

I don't give a fuck what they think.

[Concart]

I don't give a fuck what they think.

And they don't give a fuck what you think. The difference is that they matter and you don't. Which is cool.

[Drummie123]

Does that mean they are absolute? Speech, press, religion....

I believe that if the Left succeeds in their goal to gain total control of US all, they will want to give us or deny us any and every right.

[Concart]

I believe that if the Left succeeds in their goal to gain total control of US all, they will want to give us or deny us any and every right.

Who is 'the left'? Anyone that disagrees with you? I have no interest in total control. No one does. Except maybe for your Orange God. Stop whining, you aren't being denied ANYTHING. Why do you love to play victim so much.

[Flash]

I believe that if the Left succeeds in their goal to gain total control of US all, they will want to give us or deny us any and every right.

That is why the Constitution prohibits government from limiting those rights (from the right or left). Both sides favor restrictions on those rights--just different restrictions.

[leaningright]

Sorry Joe you demented sod.
The 2nd Ammendment is part of the Bill of Rights.

What is it you don't understand about "Shall not be infringed"?

On so many issues Rune and I have disagreed but on this issue we are on the same page.