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    Default The GOP can’t be saved. Center-right voters becoming Biden Republicans.

    Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.), one of only 10 House Republicans who voted to impeach then-President Donald Trump this year, recently told the Atlantic why he remains committed to the party: “I’m a Republican because I’ve been a Republican far longer than Donald Trump has. He’s a Republican usurper.… I’m not going to let him take the party. So I will fight. I will fight like hell.”
    I admire Kinzinger’s fighting spirit. I once shared it. I recall saying something very similar in 2016 when Trump was marching through the Republican primaries: It’s my party, and I won’t leave it. My hope was that a decisive win for Hillary Clinton would bring the GOP to its senses. That obviously did not happen, so the day after the 2016 election, I re-registered as an independent after a lifetime as a Republican.

    It is a decision I have not for a moment regretted, because the GOP has become even more of a horror show than I anticipated. As former House speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) notes in a new memoir, the “crazies” have taken over. There are vanishingly few John McCain-style Republicans left; Kinzinger (a lieutenant colonel in the Air National Guard) is one of the few. The party’s center of gravity has shifted to kooks such as Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (who blamed Jewish space lasers for wildfires) and low-rent hucksters such as Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz (who reportedly shared nude photos of his sexual conquests with his colleagues and is under investigation for possible sex trafficking).

    Most Republicans don’t care that Trump locked up children, cozied up to white supremacists, tear-gassed peaceful protesters, benefited from Russian help in both of his campaigns, egregiously mishandled the pandemic, incited a violent attack on the Capitol and even faced fraud complaints from his own donors. A new Reuters-Ipsos poll finds that 81 percent of Republicans have a favorable impression of Trump. Wait. It gets worse: 60 percent say the 2020 election was stolen from him, only 28 percent say he is even partly to blame for the Capitol insurrection, and 55 percent say that the Capitol attack “was led by violent left-wing protestors trying to make Trump look bad.”

    This is a portrait of a party that can’t be saved — at least in the foreseeable future. The GOP remains a cult of personality for the worst president in U.S. history. It has become a bastion of irrationality, conspiracy mongering, racism, nativism and anti-scientific prejudices.
    So what should a sane, center-right voter — someone who might have voted for the GOP in the past — do under those circumstances?

    There has been talk of forming a third party, but it’s not likely to succeed in our winner-take-all political system. Smaller parties flourish only in countries with proportional representation. There hasn’t been a successful third party in the United States since the 1850s, when the GOP arose out of the wreckage of the Whig Party. We can and should undermine the political duopoly with reforms such as multi-member congressional districts, ranked-choice voting and nonpartisan primaries. Such steps, which are being pushed by Rep. Don Beyer (D-Va.), would make moderate candidates and even third-party candidates more viable.
    But we won’t transform our political system anytime soon. In the meantime, centrists have a binary choice: Support either an increasingly extremist and obstructionist Republican Party or a Democratic Party that, under President Biden, is working to solve our most pressing problems.

    Biden has turbocharged vaccinations with better management: The seven-day average of new vaccination doses has gone from 892,399 on Inauguration Day to almost 3 million today. He has boosted the economic recovery with a $1.9 trillion stimulus bill; the unemployment rate is down to 6 percent. Now he is pushing a $2 trillion plan to rebuild our dilapidated infrastructure — something that Trump only talked about doing.
    Judge Juan M. Merchan wrote that Trump “appears to take the position that his situation and this case are unique and that the pre-trial publicity will never subside. However, this view does not align with reality.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaming Capitalist View Post
    Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.), one of only 10 House Republicans who voted to impeach then-President Donald Trump this year, recently told the Atlantic why he remains committed to the party: “I’m a Republican because I’ve been a Republican far longer than Donald Trump has. He’s a Republican usurper.… I’m not going to let him take the party. So I will fight. I will fight like hell.”
    I admire Kinzinger’s fighting spirit. I once shared it. I recall saying something very similar in 2016 when Trump was marching through the Republican primaries: It’s my party, and I won’t leave it. My hope was that a decisive win for Hillary Clinton would bring the GOP to its senses. That obviously did not happen, so the day after the 2016 election, I re-registered as an independent after a lifetime as a Republican.

    It is a decision I have not for a moment regretted, because the GOP has become even more of a horror show than I anticipated. As former House speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) notes in a new memoir, the “crazies” have taken over. There are vanishingly few John McCain-style Republicans left; Kinzinger (a lieutenant colonel in the Air National Guard) is one of the few. The party’s center of gravity has shifted to kooks such as Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (who blamed Jewish space lasers for wildfires) and low-rent hucksters such as Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz (who reportedly shared nude photos of his sexual conquests with his colleagues and is under investigation for possible sex trafficking).

    Most Republicans don’t care that Trump locked up children, cozied up to white supremacists, tear-gassed peaceful protesters, benefited from Russian help in both of his campaigns, egregiously mishandled the pandemic, incited a violent attack on the Capitol and even faced fraud complaints from his own donors. A new Reuters-Ipsos poll finds that 81 percent of Republicans have a favorable impression of Trump. Wait. It gets worse: 60 percent say the 2020 election was stolen from him, only 28 percent say he is even partly to blame for the Capitol insurrection, and 55 percent say that the Capitol attack “was led by violent left-wing protestors trying to make Trump look bad.”

    This is a portrait of a party that can’t be saved — at least in the foreseeable future. The GOP remains a cult of personality for the worst president in U.S. history. It has become a bastion of irrationality, conspiracy mongering, racism, nativism and anti-scientific prejudices.
    So what should a sane, center-right voter — someone who might have voted for the GOP in the past — do under those circumstances?

    There has been talk of forming a third party, but it’s not likely to succeed in our winner-take-all political system. Smaller parties flourish only in countries with proportional representation. There hasn’t been a successful third party in the United States since the 1850s, when the GOP arose out of the wreckage of the Whig Party. We can and should undermine the political duopoly with reforms such as multi-member congressional districts, ranked-choice voting and nonpartisan primaries. Such steps, which are being pushed by Rep. Don Beyer (D-Va.), would make moderate candidates and even third-party candidates more viable.
    But we won’t transform our political system anytime soon. In the meantime, centrists have a binary choice: Support either an increasingly extremist and obstructionist Republican Party or a Democratic Party that, under President Biden, is working to solve our most pressing problems.

    Biden has turbocharged vaccinations with better management: The seven-day average of new vaccination doses has gone from 892,399 on Inauguration Day to almost 3 million today. He has boosted the economic recovery with a $1.9 trillion stimulus bill; the unemployment rate is down to 6 percent. Now he is pushing a $2 trillion plan to rebuild our dilapidated infrastructure — something that Trump only talked about doing.
    As a result of selling out to foreign enemies, in particular Russians, the GOP has proven itself to be America's number one enemy, especially at having a influence on governance and its heinous acts of war against U.S. Constitutional law, voting rights and anything else the represents all core values of America. Also as a result of conspiring with tRump to incite an attack on the U.S. Capitol among a clump of idiots who got conned by the Don again as in insurrection and waging war on the 2020 fair and lawful electoral process, is all the more reason to consider the GOP or GQP as a enemy of the State.
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    The GOP can’t be saved.

    You'd better hope it can be because if it can't then you're going to need to deal with what replaces it.
    Don't be afraid to see what you see

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guille View Post
    The GOP can’t be saved.

    You'd better hope it can be because if it can't then you're going to need to deal with what replaces it.
    Just consult with a mental health physician and mental health therapist in order to get your head together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gemini104104 View Post
    Just consult with a mental health physician and mental health therapist in order to get your head together.
    Why? They sure ain't helping you...
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    The GOP is now going forwards going to be the opposition to the Revolution.

    THE GOOD GUYS
    I choose my own words like the Americans of olden times........before this dystopia arrived.

    DARK AGES SUCK!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gemini104104 View Post
    Just consult with a mental health physician and mental health therapist in order to get your head together.
    Don't be afraid to see what you see

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guille View Post
    The GOP can’t be saved.

    You'd better hope it can be because if it can't then you're going to need to deal with what replaces it.
    I'd rather be a socialist country than a racist country.
    Judge Juan M. Merchan wrote that Trump “appears to take the position that his situation and this case are unique and that the pre-trial publicity will never subside. However, this view does not align with reality.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    The GOP is now going forwards going to be the opposition to the Revolution.

    THE GQQD GUYS
    I see you attended Trump's School of Grammar, also. Just like TDaK and Turd Digester.

    Judge Juan M. Merchan wrote that Trump “appears to take the position that his situation and this case are unique and that the pre-trial publicity will never subside. However, this view does not align with reality.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    The GOP is now going forwards going to be the opposition to the Revolution.

    THE GOOD GUYS
    Lmao when has the opposition to a revolution ever been the good guys?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Badguy View Post
    Lmao when has the opposition to a revolution ever been the good guys?
    When Fucker Carlson tells Hawkewe10 it is so.

    Judge Juan M. Merchan wrote that Trump “appears to take the position that his situation and this case are unique and that the pre-trial publicity will never subside. However, this view does not align with reality.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    The GOP is now going forwards going to be the opposition to the Revolution.

    THE GOOD GUYS
    You think Nazis are the good guys?
    When I die, turn me into a brick and use me to cave in the skull of a fascist


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    Quote Originally Posted by Guille View Post
    The GOP can’t be saved.

    You'd better hope it can be because if it can't then you're going to need to deal with what replaces it.
    That is what the Nazis kept telling the Germans. They were supposedly the last defense against what would replace them. In West Germany, the people that replaced them were very pragmatic moderates. I am just saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    Why? They sure ain't helping you...
    sez oxy boy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaming Capitalist View Post
    When Fucker Carlson tells Hawkewe10 it is so.

    Hawkewe10 needs a daddy figure to tell him what to spew
    “If we have to have a choice between being dead and pitied, and being alive with a bad image, we’d rather be alive and have the bad image.”

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