Derek Chauvin - Hero

[artichoke]

There were 4 fucking cops there, how far could he have gone even if he weren't restrained?

And?

I've seen it take eight cops to bring down and keep down a huge guy on drugs. You arrogantly deciding that you know better than all the trained experts who were actually there based on literally nothing but the fact that it seems mean on a superficial level to the layperson in no way changes the fact that Floyd already tried to escape once. THAT'S why the extreme measures were taken, and they were entirely justified, even if it offends your "play nice with others" feelings.

Do you stand over surgeons and lecture them about how you would have stitched a person up better too? Or do you only spew such presumptuous peanut gallery sniveling and sniping at police officers?

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He wasn't large enough to fight 4 cops.

Another blatantly baseless assumption that reveals ignorance of basic facts about what cops go through on a daily basis with large druggies.

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And he sure as hell wasn't a threat handcuffed lying on his stomach.

You don't get to try to escape a second time. Try to get away once and you forfeit the right to cry like a bitch when extreme measures have to be taken.

Whether he was "intoxicated" has no bearing on the fact he was handcuffed and on his stomach, there was NO need to keep a knee with the full weight of the officer on Floyd's neck for that amount of time.

Being "intoxicated" is the entire reason he died...it's kind of relevant, especially since pinning him down provably had nothing to do with his death. It just looks mean on camera, so emotional simpletons cry about it like it's relevant to anything.

I've made my opinion on the ensuing riots clear, I'd have shot anyone attempting to break into a business that I own. So don't think for a moment I approve of riots.

We finally are back to agreeing on something.

[artichoke]

we all know only timid chickenshit bitches spew racist shit on the internet where they cannot be punched out for their bullshit. and also try to compensate for how light in the loafers they are by acting like how turned on they get by a cop killing somebody for no good reason.

So, avoid the medical examiner report proving you wrong and spew hysterical smears about racism and toughness.

Devastating counterpoint there, Socrates.

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[BidenPresident]

There is no amount of tantrum-throwing Democrat arson, lynch mob violence, or domestic terrorism that can get the "destroy whitey" crowd around the facts that George Floyd:

-Tried to steal from a business

-Resisted arrest

-Got pinned down to keep him from escaping

-Died from having 4X the fatal dose of fentanyl in his system

-Had no injuries anyone could detect that indicate he was murdered

Cry at the sky in your little vagina hats all you want. The facts show Derek Chauvin did nothing wrong, did society a favor, and selflessly put his ass on the line to protect the community against total scumbags like George Floyd.

Your racism makes you an asshole.

[BidenPresident]

The prosecutor is leading Lt. Richard Zimmerman to discuss use-of-force policies. He says all officers are required to take a training course once a year on what is proper and legal. This is likely leading to a direct question of Zimmerman about Derek Chauvin’s restraint of George Floyd.

This testimony is devastating for Derek Chauvin: One of the Minneapolis Police Department’s most respected and longest-serving officers says what Chauvin did to George Floyd was a violation of policy.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/04...-chauvin-trial

[BidenPresident]

The world is a better place without George Floyd and is without Chauvin as a cop.

The world will be better without you in it.

[BidenPresident]

And it’s almost impossible to restrain an average size person in ExD.

Floyd was a large man. As far as I could tell the cops had three choices: knee restraint; tase Floyd, probably repeatedly given his size and the ExD; let him go.

The drugs killed Floyd at least in the sense he was incapable of acting rationally. All Floyd had to do was not resist and allow the cops to put him in the cruiser. It’s the same old story in that sense. Black subject resists, gets shot or killed *because of it*; riots ensue.

Rinse, repeat.

Everything you said is a lie.

[artichoke]

Never for a minute thought you did lol.

Honest question: have you ever tried to restrain a person that’s not in their right mind because of drugs? I have more times than I can count. Some people will come out from under anesthesia and have a period of ExD where they are ‘a challenge’ to control. For whatever reason, it seems to be worse in young males.

At any rate, even an average size person can keep three or four people ‘well occupied’ until the patient comes to their senses. A large man? Grab a limb and hang on and try not to get hit or kicked into next week. So I’m not one to criticize Chauvin for the restraint technique—it was approved for a reason.

My problem with Chauvin was his situational awareness: he should have flipped Floyd over when he went unresponsive. I’ll accept whatever the jury decides regarding the rest.

1) You are way more generous than I am spelling it all out for him like that. There is no validity to his arbitrary assumptions worth responding to. Facts don't just stop mattering because your feelings got offended about the junky thief getting himself pinned down.



2) The fact that there are even charges means the injustice already exists, regardless of the outcome. Chauvin did literally nothing wrong. He is guilty of looking mean in a nation of simple-minded emotional morons, nothing more.

[domer76]

There is no amount of tantrum-throwing Democrat arson, lynch mob violence, or domestic terrorism that can get the "destroy whitey" crowd around the facts that George Floyd:

-Tried to steal from a business

-Resisted arrest

-Got pinned down to keep him from escaping

-Died from having 4X the fatal dose of fentanyl in his system

-Had no injuries anyone could detect that indicate he was murdered

Cry at the sky in your little vagina hats all you want. The facts show Derek Chauvin did nothing wrong, did society a favor, and selflessly put his ass on the line to protect the community against total scumbags like George Floyd.

Arminius = liar

[BidenPresident]

Arminius = liar

Forum racists are celebrating the death of a man because he is black.

[artichoke]

Really? So the penalty for those things is death.

For overdosing on drugs? No, dumb-ass. Obviously, the junkie dying of his own drug habit isn't anyone inflicting any kind of punishment on him at all, but the terrible crime against humanity of pinning down the junkie thief who already tried to get away once...THAT ABSOLUTELY is a legitimate punishment for his multiple crimes.

Got it. Maybe we should apply that to the capitol protesters.

I mean, the capitol protest wouldn't have happened in the first place if the HUNDREDS of Democrat terrorist attacks leading up to it had been handled that way, so sure, as long as we're enforcing the law the same across the board on that, since Democrat terrorist attacks utterly dominate America's political violence landscape, I would be all for it. That policy would quickly cleanse this country of its infection of communism nearly overnight.

How about public executions. Maybe we can sit on all of their necks for nine minutes.

Seems unnecessary. Just shoot them.

[artichoke]

Forum racists are celebrating the death of a man because he is black.

Demagogue Party halfwits who support the most racist president in decades are projecting their own bigotry against blacks on anyone who points out that the facts prove their ignorant hysteria wrong.

[BidenPresident]

Demagogue Party halfwits who support the most racist president in decades are projecting their own bigotry against blacks on anyone who points out that the facts prove their ignorant hysteria wrong.

you are an idiot

[artichoke]

Everything you said is a lie.

Funny how he can back up his points and you can't back up yours.

[artichoke]

The world will be better without you in it.

Mindless blather.

[BidenPresident]

Funny how he can back up his points and you can't back up yours.

What point? Chauvin violated policy in his use of force. What point are you making?