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Thread: Theocracies and Atheist Regimes...the worst ones

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    Default Theocracies and Atheist Regimes...the worst ones

    I am limiting the survey to the 20th century for an apples to apples comparison. Applying 21st century values to to 15th century tends to be anachronistic.

    Worst theocracies:

    Islamic Republic of Iran: extrajudicial killings, torture, repression of political opposition, secular intellectuals, and free press.

    Kingdom of Saudi Arabia: Beheadings, political assassinations, repression of women, totalitarianism..

    Taliban: beheadings, execution of homosexuals, adulterers, heretics. Intolerance for religious minorities, destruction of historic world heritage archeological sites.


    State Atheism - worst atheist regimes:

    Soviet Union: murder of hundreds of thousands of priests, deacons, Christian laypersons in the name of State atheism. Widespread oppression and arrests of Orthodox Christians, Muslims, Baptists.

    Khmer Rouge: Murder of tens of thousands of Buddhist monks and laypersons.

    Communist China: Destruction of Buddhist temples, Christian churches, widespread oppression of religious minorities.

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    One good thing about Soviet atheism is that it undermined the worst aspects of religious patriarchy associated with Russia's ancient Orthodox heritage.

    The Soviet Union was the first nation in Europe to make abortion legal, to allow women to vote, and to allow women to initiate a divorce from a husband.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I am limiting the survey to the 20th century for an apples to apples comparison. Applying 21st century values to to 15th century tends to be anachronistic.

    Worst theocracies:

    Islamic Republic of Iran: extrajudicial killings, torture, repression of political opposition, secular intellectuals, and free press.

    Kingdom of Saudi Arabia: Beheadings, political assassinations, repression of women, totalitarianism..

    Taliban: beheadings, execution of homosexuals, adulterers, heretics. Intolerance for religious minorities, destruction of historic world heritage archeological sites.


    State Atheism - worst atheist regimes:

    Soviet Union: murder of hundreds of thousands of priests, deacons, Christian laypersons in the name of State atheism. Widespread oppression and arrests of Orthodox Christians, Muslims, Baptists.

    Khmer Rouge: Murder of tens of thousands of Buddhist monks and laypersons.

    Communist China: Destruction of Buddhist temples, Christian churches, widespread oppression of religious minorities.
    There have been many regimes that are guilty of atrocities and massacres that are not theocracies or atheist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    There have been many regimes that are guilty of atrocities and massacres that are not theocracies or atheist.
    Overall, I think there is no correlation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Overall, I think there is no correlation.
    The thing they share in common in intolerance of opposition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    The thing they share in common in intolerance of opposition.
    Yes, as with a two party system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    There have been many regimes that are guilty of atrocities and massacres that are not theocracies or atheist.
    That is why I specifically put this thread in the "Religion"
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    The theme is governments based directly on religion, or based as a reaction against religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Yes, as with a two party system.
    No similarity. Systems with two dominant parties still allow opposition and additional parties are less successful because they don't attract voters more than any legal or political obstacles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    No similarity. Systems with two dominant parties still allow opposition and additional parties are less successful because they don't attract voters more than any legal or political obstacles.
    The GOP is now a fascist party.

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