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    Default the AR-15 follies: Here we go again!

    Okay, so we all know that Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa went postal in Boulder, CO grocery store this pas Monday. He killed a bunch of people before getting shot by the cops and surrendering. So far, the cops are saying it doesn't look like a American got "radicalized" by Islamic extremism. Instead, according to family and friends, the guy seems to be 1 brick shy of a load. The kicker is just 4 days before junior went off the very ban on the weapon he used was over turned by the district courts.

    Now on one end you have the gun control folk and Democratic majority banging the table saying, "See! Get these damned things (assault weapons, i.e. the AR-15 type rifles) out of general population circulation! Ban them! "

    On the other end you have the 2nd Amendment folk and Republican majority banging the table saying, "See! Muslim extremists/terrorists are here! It's not the guns, it's them!"

    My take is this: If junior had no criminal record or official record of psychological problems, a 7 day waiting period for a background check wouldn't have made a difference. He would have every legal right under Colorado law to buy that weapon. You can only go far in trying to legislate against crazy.

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    Once again, the weapon of choice for mass shooters is the AR-15....a sweet little versatile weapon that does EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED FOR....ASSAULTING AND KILLING PEOPLE WITH ACCURACY (as much as the user can apply). Now people will debate until doomsday as to whether the same amount of damage could have been done with other types of rifles or a handgun (or handguns).

    BUT

    We will NEVER know if the AR-15 is available to ANYONE, ANY TIME, ANY WHERE.

    And the band played on.
    During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Okay, so we all know that Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa went postal in Boulder, CO grocery store this pas Monday. He killed a bunch of people before getting shot by the cops and surrendering. So far, the cops are saying it doesn't look like a American got "radicalized" by Islamic extremism. Instead, according to family and friends, the guy seems to be 1 brick shy of a load. The kicker is just 4 days before junior went off the very ban on the weapon he used was over turned by the district courts.

    Now on one end you have the gun control folk and Democratic majority banging the table saying, "See! Get these damned things (assault weapons, i.e. the AR-15 type rifles) out of general population circulation! Ban them! "

    On the other end you have the 2nd Amendment folk and Republican majority banging the table saying, "See! Muslim extremists/terrorists are here! It's not the guns, it's them!"

    My take is this: If junior had no criminal record or official record of psychological problems, a 7 day waiting period for a background check wouldn't have made a difference. He would have every legal right under Colorado law to buy that weapon. You can only go far in trying to legislate against crazy.

    BUT

    Once again, the weapon of choice for mass shooters is the AR-15....a sweet little versatile weapon that does EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED FOR....ASSAULTING AND KILLING PEOPLE WITH ACCURACY (as much as the user can apply). Now people will debate until doomsday as to whether the same amount of damage could have been done with other types of rifles or a handgun (or handguns).

    BUT

    We will NEVER know if the AR-15 is available to ANYONE, ANY TIME, ANY WHERE.

    And the band played on.
    Too bad Democrats keep focusing on banning guns instead of identifying and treating mental illness.
    Stripping Americans of their rights, regardless if inalienable or unenumerated, is against American ideals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Okay, so we all know that Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa went postal in Boulder, CO grocery store this pas Monday. He killed a bunch of people before getting shot by the cops and surrendering. So far, the cops are saying it doesn't look like a American got "radicalized" by Islamic extremism. Instead, according to family and friends, the guy seems to be 1 brick shy of a load. The kicker is just 4 days before junior went off the very ban on the weapon he used was over turned by the district courts.

    Now on one end you have the gun control folk and Democratic majority banging the table saying, "See! Get these damned things (assault weapons, i.e. the AR-15 type rifles) out of general population circulation! Ban them! "

    On the other end you have the 2nd Amendment folk and Republican majority banging the table saying, "See! Muslim extremists/terrorists are here! It's not the guns, it's them!"

    My take is this: If junior had no criminal record or official record of psychological problems, a 7 day waiting period for a background check wouldn't have made a difference. He would have every legal right under Colorado law to buy that weapon. You can only go far in trying to legislate against crazy.

    BUT

    Once again, the weapon of choice for mass shooters is the AR-15....a sweet little versatile weapon that does EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED FOR....ASSAULTING AND KILLING PEOPLE WITH ACCURACY (as much as the user can apply). Now people will debate until doomsday as to whether the same amount of damage could have been done with other types of rifles or a handgun (or handguns).

    BUT

    We will NEVER know if the AR-15 is available to ANYONE, ANY TIME, ANY WHERE.

    And the band played on.
    Yes, that's exactly what it was designed for. You're not breaking any news here.
    Why Trump? Because Fuck You that's why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Too bad Democrats keep focusing on banning guns instead of identifying and treating mental illness.
    Too bad Republicans keep trying to ignore the fact that better gun control and removing assault weapons from the general population lessens gun related deaths. Gun Manufacturers need sales, politicians need money...a match made in hell for the American people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Too bad Republicans keep trying to ignore the fact that better gun control and removing assault weapons from the general population lessens gun related deaths. Gun Manufacturers need sales, politicians need money...a match made in hell for the American people.
    Who you gonna send to take them if they're banned?
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Democrats are REALLY foaming at the mouth to use one of these INCREDIBLY rare shooting events to FURTHER destroy the Constitution and country.

    Democrats really are vastly more dangerous than a million so-called mass shooters, and they've been proving it for the last 5 years; they're 21st century Nazis.
    Democrats see themselves not as the psychopathic Nazi terrorists & brainless duped Good Parrots that they are, but as patriotic freedom fighters; this is the depth of their derangement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Too bad Republicans keep trying to ignore the fact that better gun control and removing assault weapons from the general population lessens gun related deaths. Gun Manufacturers need sales, politicians need money...a match made in hell for the American people.

    Who you gonna send to take them if they're banned?
    Look up the definition of the word "ban" and the word "confiscate", genius. With the first AWB, all weapons purchased prior to the law going into effect were kept legal. Know your recent history, man! Get educated!
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    Quote Originally Posted by War=Peace View Post
    Democrats are REALLY foaming at the mouth to use one of these INCREDIBLY rare shooting events to FURTHER destroy the Constitution and country.

    Democrats really are vastly more dangerous than a million so-called mass shooters, and they've been proving it for the last 5 years; they're 21st century Nazis.
    try reading carefully and comprehensively the OP, genius. then explain to the reading audience how the Democratic party is responsible for being "more dangerous" than mass shooters in the last 5 years, because in my book getting shot to death is pretty much the final straw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    Who you gonna send to take them if they're banned?
    Social workers?
    Why Trump? Because Fuck You that's why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Look up the definition of the word "ban" and the word "confiscate", genius. With the first AWB, all weapons purchased prior to the law going into effect were kept legal. Know your recent history, man! Get educated!
    WTF does "removing" mean? Sounds a lot like "confiscation" to me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    try reading carefully and comprehensively the OP, genius. then explain to the reading audience how the Democratic party is responsible for being "more dangerous" than mass shooters in the last 5 years, because in my book getting shot to death is pretty much the final straw.
    Your OP's a mess. Democrats: Deranged warmongering psychopaths responsible for the death of millions, the destruction of tens of millions of lives, and the greatest danger to the country & world since Nazi Germany.
    Democrats see themselves not as the psychopathic Nazi terrorists & brainless duped Good Parrots that they are, but as patriotic freedom fighters; this is the depth of their derangement.

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    Just putting this out here...again. Yes, AR-15s are designed to kill people. And, they are Constitutionally protected precisely because they are of use on the battlefield.

    I love watching little prog tyrants be 200 years behind the times. They don't understand the world they live in and they never will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post


    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Look up the definition of the word "ban" and the word "confiscate", genius. With the first AWB, all weapons purchased prior to the law going into effect were kept legal. Know your recent history, man! Get educated!
    WTF does "removing" mean? Sounds a lot like "confiscation" to me...
    Get off your mental fat ass and go read the first AWB 1994. It states in no uncertain terms that all weapons purchased prior to enactment of the law are exempt from the ban, and thereby kept legal by the owners. Capice? No sale of such weapons on the list were legal after enactment of the law, as with purchases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by War=Peace View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    try reading carefully and comprehensively the OP, genius. then explain to the reading audience how the Democratic party is responsible for being "more dangerous" than mass shooters in the last 5 years, because in my book getting shot to death is pretty much the final straw.
    Your OP's a mess. Democrats: Deranged warmongering psychopaths responsible for the death of millions, the destruction of tens of millions of lives, and the greatest danger to the country & world since Nazi Germany.
    As the reader can clearly see, I'm dealing with a mentally deficient right wing troll here. I took him out of IA hoping he got help in the last few months. Clearly, he hasn't, so back in the bin with him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    As the reader can clearly see, I'm dealing with a mentally deficient right wing troll here. I took him out of IA hoping he got help in the last few months. Clearly, he hasn't, so back in the bin with him.
    The reader? (Are you a right-wing troll? I'm neither right wing nor a troll, so you may be projecting.) Makes no sense. Ditto.
    Democrats see themselves not as the psychopathic Nazi terrorists & brainless duped Good Parrots that they are, but as patriotic freedom fighters; this is the depth of their derangement.

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