Biden preparing $3 trillion infrastructure bill

[Cypress]

"Biden advisors reportedly plan $3 trillion more spending on infrastructure, universal pre-K, climate change initiatives"

The first proposed package would spend heavily on infrastructure improvements, with nearly $1 trillion in spending alone for roads, bridges, electric vehicles, and more.

The second plan would be people-focused and spend heavily on education and programs to increase the participation of women in the labor force, including free community college, universal pre-K education, and a national paid leave program. Those elements are targeted at encouraging people to reenter the workforce and strengthen the overall economic recovery.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bus...e-2021-3%3famp

[T. A. Gardner]

What infrastructure is this plan including in it? The education spending will buy little or nothing. As is well known, only about a third of the population is college material. "Universal pre-k education" amounts to nothing but free daycare--and probably pretty crappy daycare since it'd be the government running it. A paid national leave program is just another form of welfare for all intents.

None of that encourages anyone not already interested in work to suddenly become interested. Women aren't inclined, for the most part, in entering fields like construction in any case so the whole infrastructure plan, whatever it is, won't be seeing them rushing to take jobs there.

This just sounds like a tremendous waste of fiat money on a government / political wish list that has no firm basis in economic reality.

[Cypress]

What infrastructure is this plan including in it?

"The first proposed package would spend heavily on infrastructure improvements, with nearly $1 trillion in spending alone for roads, bridges, electric vehicles, and more."

The education spending will buy little or nothing. As is well known, only about a third of the population is college material. "Universal pre-k education" amounts to nothing but free daycare--and probably pretty crappy daycare since it'd be the government running it. A paid national leave program is just another form of welfare for all intents.

None of that encourages anyone not already interested in work to suddenly become interested. Women aren't inclined, for the most part, in entering fields like construction in any case so the whole infrastructure plan, whatever it is, won't be seeing them rushing to take jobs there.

This just sounds like a tremendous waste of fiat money on a government / political wish list that has no firm basis in economic reality.

Mandatory paid leave, universal pre-K, and tuition-free community college are the hallmarks of a civilized nation.

Investment in infrastructure and in people is known to be a key ingredient to a successful economy

Go socialism!

[Jack]

I heard 'earmarks' will be included. So ... something even Republicans can feed at the trough.

"The term earmark spending refers to a part of a spending bill that allocates money for a specific thing such as a location, project or institution. The key difference between an earmark and a general budget line is the specificity of the recipient, which is usually a particular project in a specific Congressman's district or a Senator's home state. Earmarking is often used as a tool for negotiation and deal-making: a representative might vote in favor of a project in another representative's district in exchange for earmarked funding in his own district."
https://www.thoughtco.com/the-defini...armark-3368076

[LV426]

Still too small...won't move the needle enough to make a significant difference.

Needs to be at least 2x-3x that size.

[dukkha]

"Biden advisors reportedly plan $3 trillion more spending on infrastructure, universal pre-K, climate change initiatives"

The first proposed package would spend heavily on infrastructure improvements, with nearly $1 trillion in spending alone for roads, bridges, electric vehicles, and more.

The second plan would be people-focused and spend heavily on education and programs to increase the participation of women in the labor force, including free community college, universal pre-K education, and a national paid leave program. Those elements are targeted at encouraging people to reenter the workforce and strengthen the overall economic recovery.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bus...e-2021-3%3famp

WTF? why is THE GOVERNMENT doing paid leave for private industries?
Dems are insane - spending like a drunken sailor

[LV426]

WTF? why is THE GOVERNMENT doing paid leave for private industries?

Because private industries won't do it themselves.

Dems are insane - spending like a drunken sailor

You took a deficit that was under $600B and turned it into record, trillion-dollar deficits before COVID and you have absolutely NOTHING to show for it.

[Cypress]

WTF? why is THE GOVERNMENT doing paid leave for private industries?
Dems are insane - spending like a drunken sailor

We are virtually the only major democracy on the planet which does not mandate paid leave for workers.

If you want to be down there with Somalia and Pakistan, that is your prerogative. Biden obviously prefers to be a civilized nation like Denmark or France.

[dukkha]

"Universal pre-k education" amounts to nothing but free daycare-A paid national leave program is just another form of welfare for all intents.

I can barely recall K. It got me used to going to school,but didnt teach me anything but playtime...
agree on the welfare aspect. "hey I gotta job where i can show up occassionally"

This just sounds like a tremendous waste of fiat money on a government / political wish list that has no firm basis in economic reality.

its delusional -give tax credits and cuts insteadand watch how fast people go to work and business hires

[dukkha]

We are virtually the only major democracy on the planet which does not mandate paid leave for workers.

If you want to be down there with Somalia and Pakistan, that is your prerogative. Biden obviously prefers to be a civilized nation like Denmark or France.

everyone working full time gets paid leave -except independent contractors like myself..
I DO NOT WANT IT. I DO NOT WANT TO BE AN EMPLOYEE OR PAID LIKE ONE.
I make a lot more this way and schedule my hours as I please. Im sure the Dems will fuck this up as well

And "mandatory leave" isnt the same as government paying for it

[Cypress]

everyone working full time gets paid leave -except independent contractors like myself..
I DO NOT WANT IT. I DO NOT WANT TO BE AN EMPLOYEE OR PAID LIKE ONE.
I make a lot more this way and schedule my hours as I please. Im sure the Dems will fuck this up as well

And "mandatory leave" isnt the same as government paying for it

80 percent of Democrats and Republicans support a mandatory paid leave program.

Which means you are the true extremist, the odd man out.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bus...y-2021-1%3famp

[dukkha]

Because private industries won't do it themselves.

sure they do, name me a business where full time workers dont get paid leave? I cant think of any

You took a deficit that was under $600B and turned it into record, trillion-dollar deficits before COVID and you have absolutely NOTHING to show for it.

Pre-COVID rthe economy was booming, wage gains were skewed to lower percentiles -unlike during Obama.
I have no problem with COVID relief and infrastructure -both needed.
Throwing money away, or paying for private workers leave is not accptable

[dukkha]

80 percent of Democrats and Republicans support a mandatory paid leave program.

Which means you are the true extremist, the odd man out.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bus...y-2021-1%3famp

maybe im missing the definition of "paid leave" who pays for it?
If you want to mandate paid leave -im fine with that - but not paying for private employers to do it
Let them pay for it

[LV426]

Pre-COVID rthe economy was boomin

Why are you lying?

There's no reason for you to keep lying.

Trump isn't President anymore, and you don't need to make his shitty term look good because no one cares anymore.

It's official: Recession began in February, ending longest U.S. expansion ever
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/united-...rted-february/

U.S. manufacturing was in a mild recession during 2019, a sore spot for the economy
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...-spot-economy/

wage gains were skewed to lower percentiles

Only because 18 states raised their minimum wage in 2018, and 20 states raised theirs in 2019.

I have no problem with COVID relief and infrastructure -both needed.

Yeah, because of you.

Throwing money away, or paying for private workers leave is not accptable

After you lied about COVID for 15 months, you have a lot of nerve lecturing people on what is unacceptable.

[dukkha]

Why are you lying?

There's no reason for you to keep lying.

Trump isn't President anymore, and you don't need to make his shitty term look good because no one cares anymore.

It's official: Recession began in February, ending longest U.S. expansion ever
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/united-...rted-february/

U.S. manufacturing was in a mild recession during 2019, a sore spot for the economy
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...-spot-economy/




Only because 18 states raised their minimum wage in 2018, and 20 states raised theirs in 2019.




Yeah, because of you.




After you lied about COVID for 15 months, you have a lot of nerve lecturing people on what is unacceptable.

same old crap.. done with you