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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    The Bill of Rights has been around for a minute.

    I would say our society is de-evolving, presently.
    Well you know who is to blame for it.

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    Why is it that every time I have a discussion and disagree, I am always called a troll?

    I don't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Why is it that every time I have a discussion and disagree, I am always called a troll?

    I don't get it.
    Because trolls love company just like Misery does and she is on bitch of a mistress!

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    Hello T. A. Gardner,

    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    ... The Left is far better at this historically and we can see the repeated results in wrecked economies, wrecked societies, and the social disasters they have created then walked away from.
    Me:
    Hello T. A. Gardner,

    Example of a 'wrecked economy' the American left has 'walked away from,' please?
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    They haven't yet because the Left hasn't gotten control yet.
    So then this has not occurred:

    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    ... The Left is far better at this historically and we can see the repeated results in wrecked economies, wrecked societies, and the social disasters they have created then walked away from.
    There are not repeated results of this.

    It has not ever actually happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello T. A. Gardner,



    Me:



    So then this has not occurred:

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    There are not repeated results of this.

    It has not ever actually happened.
    Soviet Union, Albania, Cuba, N. Korea, the UK, Sweden, France, etc., of the 60's to 70's, Greece or Italy today, and so on.

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    This is America, the land of the free.

    Just a friendly reminder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Jarod,



    Trump campaigned on his MAGA slogan, claiming to make America great again, as if America was previously great but is no longer.

    But he never once explained: When America was previously great, When that ceased to be, Nor by what metric he is defining great.

    This is a country in which Donald Trump was able to become a billionaire, and he doesn't think it's great?

    What prevents America from being great if he can become a billionaire?

    It is perplexing why Trump supporters are so pessimistic about America.

    This liberal thinks America was already great before Trump took over, and continues to be great despite anything he did, and always stands room for more improvement.

    I think Make America Greater makes more sense.
    You mean make America more Communist. Sorry no. but the ONLY right faith is the Fundamental faith in Christ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boris The Animal View Post
    You mean make America more Communist. Sorry no. but the ONLY right faith is the Fundamental faith in Christ.

    Amen

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    Hello Darth,

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    It inevitably ends up with things like eugenics. Or with our current technology, in places like this:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...ure-transhuman

    How much you wanna bet that doesn’t end well.
    The article ends at the point of wondering what it will be like one day when most of the human body is replaced by machine parts and wired into the brain for an extended life of enhanced capabilities.

    That isn't looking far enough down the road.

    You know where it's leading.

    Immortality.

    It won't stop there.

    Immortality can be achieved when we figure out how to 'download the brain.'

    That will be when the essence of consciousness is transferred from the human brain into a computer platform, and given any sort of body the individual chooses. It could be a human form, or something else. Imagination is the only limitation. Or there doesn't really need to be a physical form at all. Or it could be one thing one day, and a different form the next.

    Once the human consciousness becomes transferable to computer form, there could be immortality.

    Many concerns will arise.

    The ethics of it is only one.

    If an entity can exist in computer form, it can be copied. Will individuality be lost if one can duplicate oneself?

    Will the divide between human and machine be lost?

    Will the machines decide to do away with natural humans?

    It could be fascinating to find out.

    And terrifying.

    But how could it be stopped if we wanted to?

    There were individuals who realized how terrible nuclear technology might be, who tried to stop it.

    They couldn't.

    The last 100 years has been an amazing time to be alive. So much has been invented / discovered / developed.

    What will the next 100 years bring?

    My, don't we live in interesting times...
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    Can there be 'love' between a natural sentient breathing human and a computerized consciousness?

    If a 'digital person' could choose any form, at will, will the concern over human beauty and identity be lost?

    Will individual identity be lost?

    Could a 'digital person' feel? Have emotion? Experience euphoria?

    Will 'happiness' be lost?

    Would immortality lead to a loss of morality?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Can there be 'love' between a natural sentient breathing human and a computerized consciousness?

    If a 'digital person' could choose any form, at will, will the concern over human beauty and identity be lost?

    Will individual identity be lost?

    Could a 'digital person' feel? Have emotion? Experience euphoria?

    Will 'happiness' be lost?

    Would immortality lead to a loss of morality?
    Here's something profound to think about. The entire Star Trek crew has been dead since their first teleportation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Can there be 'love' between a natural sentient breathing human and a computerized consciousness?

    If a 'digital person' could choose any form, at will, will the concern over human beauty and identity be lost?

    Will individual identity be lost?

    Could a 'digital person' feel? Have emotion? Experience euphoria?

    Will 'happiness' be lost?

    Would immortality lead to a loss of morality?

    The pandemic shows how sensitive the human body is. If there is evolution, our current form will be replaced.

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    Hello T. A. Gardner,

    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Soviet Union, Albania, Cuba, N. Korea, the UK, Sweden, France, etc., of the 60's to 70's, Greece or Italy today, and so on.
    I'm surprised you're not trotting out the standard 'Venezuela' example.

    No matter.

    The American left has caused none of those situations.

    Heck. It's debatable that any 'left' created some of those.

    You think North Korea is an example of the left?

    How is a communist dictatorship liberal?

    Looks pretty rigid and controlled to me.

    I think your argument is falling apart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    The Bill of Rights has been around for a minute.

    I would say our society is de-evolving, presently.
    You think you are helping or propagating the hate, the lies= the breakdown & devolution of our society Omar??
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello T. A. Gardner,



    I'm surprised you're not trotting out the standard 'Venezuela' example.

    No matter.

    The American left has caused none of those situations.

    Heck. It's debatable that any 'left' created some of those.

    You think North Korea is an example of the left?

    How is a communist dictatorship liberal?

    Looks pretty rigid and controlled to me.

    I think your argument is falling apart.
    Venezuela is a poor example compared to the ones I gave. For example, Albania had a seriously and totally socialist economy based on the worst of Mao and Red China for decades. That left it one of the poorest nations in Europe. It also--like any heavily socialist nation--had one of the most developed and insidious black markets in Europe. Today it's known as the car theft capital of Europe as well as for various criminal scams, etc. That disfunction came out of it's economic ruin under Communism.

    N. Korea is an example of Leftist everything carried to an extreme. The economy is in tatters and there are black markets everywhere there. Threats of brutal punishment for operating a black market have not dissuaded a desperate population in the least.

    Communism is the more virulent form of Socialism, that's all. Socialism is equally insidious when it comes to economies. Britain was wrecked by Socialist economics and has only recovered since those policies were reversed or dropped. Their aircraft industry was ruined to a point it will never recover. The automobile industry suffered massively from such operations as British Leyland. As in America, and elsewhere, public housing turned into a poverty trap that attracted crime.

    If the Left gets their way in the US, it too will go down the road to economic ruin. For example, the Left has driven manufacturing out of California. California at one time was the world leader in aerospace and aircraft manufacturing. Today it's all but totally gone driven out by regulation and environmentalism run amok. It's the state with by far the largest population of homeless and welfare recipients. The Middle Class there is in steep decline. It isn't Capitalism or a relatively free market economy that's killing California. It's Leftist economic policy coupled with general Leftist ideas.

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