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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    And to respond accordingly;

    Wrong, “Joe Bongino” is a nobody
    So we agree. He isn't relevant to this conversation.
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    Not the center of our Gov’t to halt the fulfillment of a Constitutional responsibility
    The Democrats do not recognize the Constitution of the United States nor any State constitution.
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    Federal Gov’t is doing what it is intended to do,
    There is no federal government.
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    you really didn’t think the Trump TV reality show had the capability to have the country vaccinated by May,
    Vaccines were already available at your local drug store by December, 2020. They still are.
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    they couldn’t even deliver their own promises in December when they had over a year to plan
    Government doesn't distribute the vaccine. Pfizer did, through their usual distribution channels. By December of 2020, you could go down to your local drug store or clinic and get your vaccine shots.
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    Wrong again, failed in meeting their meager goals in both December and January and never had the million doses they said were in reserve
    The vaccine has been available at your local drug store or clinic since December 2020.
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    Bush was conservative Republican,
    Nope. He was a RINO.
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    and the conservative right didn’t give a rat’s ass when both he and Trump ran up the bills
    Presidents do not spend money. Only the House does. Again, you fail to recognize the Constitution of the United States.
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    And yet again, deficits and debts were never a concern under any GOP Administration, as Cheney said, to them, debts don’t count
    Cheney is also a RINO.
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    Ditto, tax cuts aren’t the recipe in a healthy economy if one is concerned about deficits/debt
    Obama did not leave a healthy economy. Tax cuts are not a cost. Tax cuts do improve the economy.
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    Can’t say it enough, wrong, “Joe Bongino’s” opinion is no more worthwhile than my barber’s
    So we agree. His opinion isn't the issue.
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    Antifa and BLM never attempted to topple the seat of Gov’t nor halt an entire branch of the Gov’t from executing its Constitutional duties
    Correct. Democrats did.
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    The Federal Gov’t is succeeding,
    There is no federal government.
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    as noted, delivering and executing all the vaccine the country needs by May
    The vaccine is already available. It has been since December 2020.
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    And lastly, need it be said, you and “Joe Bongino” have a lot in common, lot of rhetoric, few facts
    Buzzword fallacies. Straw man fallacy. Learn what 'fact' means. Doublespeak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by China Joe View Post
    ...which is proof that they were part of rigging it.
    Not a proof (a proof only exists in a closed functional system like mathematics or logic), but damn solid evidence. Yes. I agree Big Tech is part of it. Fortunately, they don't control the internet like they think they do, and Big Tech is losing money FAST as their customers leave for other services.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Very true. But about the same as the Covid release bill passed under Trump if that is the bill you are referring to.

    If you are referring to the bill on voting it is specifically authorized by the Constitution.
    No. HR1 violates Articles I, II, IV, V, and amendments 1, 4, 5, 9, 10, 12, and 14 of the Constitution of the United States.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpet View Post
    Who give a fuck about what you think; I sure don't.
    Bulverism fallacy. Argument of ignorance fallacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Yes, the democrats did some terrible things, like raising money, Like allowing perfectly legal mail in balloting.
    Printing money without a corresponding increase in wealth is inflation, dude.
    Mass mail in voting is not legal in most States. You again do not recognize the constitution of any State.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpet View Post
    Why don't you go lay an egg.
    Why don't you go and at least try to read up on the Constitution of the United States, the constitution of the State you are in (if any), the writings of Karl Marx, and the writings and philosophy of Plato.
    I have chickens that lay eggs for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Just a tiny example of how the constitution means nothing to you. There are so many more.
    Inversion fallacy. Your statement had nothing to do with anything. It was completely random and off topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    We have constitutional lawyers who have spent years trying to interpret and understand the constitution, yet you have become an expert overnight.
    'Expert' worship. False authority fallacy. The Constitution of the United States is the ONLY authoritative reference of the Constitution of the United States.
    You do not need a law degree or anyone to 'interpret' the Constitution. It is plainly written.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    No. HR1 violates Articles I, II, IV, V, and amendments 1, 4, 5, 9, 10, 12, and 14 of the Constitution of the United States.
    And Congress is given the power in Article I, Section 4.

    The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.


    Into the Night 12/31
    Currently, it looks like GA is going to choose Republican electors.
    AZ looks like it might also, but seems to be further away from actually choosing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    So we agree. He isn't relevant to this conversation.

    The Democrats do not recognize the Constitution of the United States nor any State constitution.

    There is no federal government.

    Vaccines were already available at your local drug store by December, 2020. They still are.

    Government doesn't distribute the vaccine. Pfizer did, through their usual distribution channels. By December of 2020, you could go down to your local drug store or clinic and get your vaccine shots.

    The vaccine has been available at your local drug store or clinic since December 2020.

    Nope. He was a RINO.

    Presidents do not spend money. Only the House does. Again, you fail to recognize the Constitution of the United States.

    Cheney is also a RINO.

    Obama did not leave a healthy economy. Tax cuts are not a cost. Tax cuts do improve the economy.

    So we agree. His opinion isn't the issue.

    Correct. Democrats did.

    There is no federal government.

    The vaccine is already available. It has been since December 2020.

    Buzzword fallacies. Straw man fallacy. Learn what 'fact' means. Doublespeak.
    Too funny

    Hey, “Joe Bongino’s” opinions are the source of this thread, apparently someone found them relevant

    Sounds like a “Joe Bongino,” now Democrats don’t recognize the Constitution, from what I’ve seen here, conservatives don’t understand the Constitution they supposedly love

    And now we don’t have a Federal Gov’t, almost a given that this is a deflection intended to turn the exchange into a debate on semantics

    Trump promised million doses by end of December, failed, also failed miserably in their January goal, and then it was the million doses they claimed were being held in reserve didn’t exist, yeah, that’s success

    Bush was a conservative Republican, so unless you think the GOP is further to the right than conservatism, he was a Republican

    Wrong, House begins spending bills, which move thru the Senate and have to be approved by the President, signed off by the President, executed by the President, why did you think Trump’s insisted on having his name on the checks. Did I mention many conservatives don’t understand the Constitution they supposedly love?

    Important piece of two GOP Administration plus the darling of talk radio and Fox demagogues, but now he’s a RINO

    Obama left a progressing economy, nearly every economic indicator proves it, all Trump did was not f*ck it up, well, until 2020 that is, and unlike his predecessor and Trump, Obama reduced discretionary spending, something the supposed deficit/debt Republicans had no problem with when Trump reversed that trend. So much for cutting spending

    Wrong again, shocking, it wasn’t Biden banners flying high on January 6th

    Available, barely, even though millions was promised

    Inane

    Now, why don’t you try breaking it down by adjectives and adverbs, maybe then you’ll be able to sell your radio rants as facts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    'Expert' worship. False authority fallacy. The Constitution of the United States is the ONLY authoritative reference of the Constitution of the United States.
    You do not need a law degree or anyone to 'interpret' the Constitution. It is plainly written.
    When “nightingale” resorts to pulling off of his Google list of fallacies you know he is done

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    When “nightingale” resorts to pulling off of his Google list of fallacies you know he is done
    He starts off done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Nope. Time magazine did actually print such an article, admitting that the Democrats rigged the election.
    no, it did not....read it. it had a satirical headline about how there was a "secret bi-partisan campaign" to save the election, but it had nothing to do with rigging the election, or voter fraud, or any of the silly ass impossible shit trump spewed and his voters believed, and besides, IT WAS CALLED BI-PARTISAN, not democratic. here ya go....get someone to read it to ya.

    The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election

    A weird thing happened right after the Nov. 3 election: nothing.

    The nation was braced for chaos. Liberal groups had vowed to take to the streets, planning hundreds of protests across the country. Right-wing militias were girding for battle. In a poll before Election Day, 75% of Americans voiced concern about violence.

    Instead, an eerie quiet descended. As President Trump refused to concede, the response was not mass action but crickets. When media organizations called the race for Joe Biden on Nov. 7, jubilation broke out instead, as people thronged cities across the U.S. to celebrate the democratic process that resulted in Trump’s ouster.

    There was a conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes, one that both curtailed the protests and coordinated the resistance from CEOs. Both surprises were the result of an informal alliance between left-wing activists and business titans. The pact was formalized in a terse, little-noticed joint statement of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and AFL-CIO published on Election Day. Both sides would come to see it as a sort of implicit bargain–inspired by the summer’s massive, sometimes destructive racial-justice protests–in which the forces of labor came together with the forces of capital to keep the peace and oppose Trump’s assault on democracy.

    The handshake between business and labor was just one component of a vast, cross-partisan campaign to protect the election–an extraordinary shadow effort dedicated not to winning the vote but to ensuring it would be free and fair, credible and uncorrupted. For more than a year, a loosely organized coalition of operatives scrambled to shore up America’s institutions as they came under simultaneous attack from a remorseless pandemic and an autocratically inclined President. Though much of this activity took place on the left, it was separate from the Biden campaign and crossed ideological lines, with crucial contributions by nonpartisan and conservative actors. The scenario the shadow campaigners were desperate to stop was not a Trump victory. It was an election so calamitous that no result could be discerned at all, a failure of the central act of democratic self-governance that has been a hallmark of America since its founding.

    Their work touched every aspect of the election. They got states to change voting systems and laws and helped secure hundreds of millions in public and private funding. They fended off voter-suppression lawsuits, recruited armies of poll workers and got millions of people to vote by mail for the first time. They successfully pressured social media companies to take a harder line against disinformation and used data-driven strategies to fight viral smears. They executed national public-awareness campaigns that helped Americans understand how the vote count would unfold over days or weeks, preventing Trump’s conspiracy theories and false claims of victory from getting more traction. After Election Day, they monitored every pressure point to ensure that Trump could not overturn the result. “The untold story of the election is the thousands of people of both parties who accomplished the triumph of American democracy at its very foundation,” says Norm Eisen, a prominent lawyer and former Obama Administration official who recruited Republicans and Democrats to the board of the Voter Protection Program.

    https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/
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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    We have constitutional lawyers who have spent years trying to interpret and understand the constitution, yet you have become an expert overnight.
    Correction, we have constitutional lawyers who have spent years trying to creatively interpret and usurp the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy View Post
    no, it did not....read it. it had a satirical headline...
    So now Time Magazine is The Onion.


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