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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Well, then next time you are confronted by someone saying "It's a woman's right to choose..." Ask, Then why do men have to pay child support?
    Exactly. The birth of the child is entirely up to the mother, so she should take care of the kid entirely. Before abortion was legalized you could blame the man partially for the birth, but since 1973 you can't say that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    My rent last year only went up 2% because of covid. It had been going up 5-10% a year for 5 years.

    The texas thing was a once in a lifetime incident.

    People should not buy on credit. I never have.
    Well, I'm sure you are not happy that rent goes up that much every year, and yes, you are right- I READ WHERE REAL ESTATE AND RENT GOES UP ANNUALLY ABOUT 5% A YEAR ON THE AVERAGE ACROSS THE NATION.

    Texas did have an Ice Storm back in 2012 and 100's of thousands lost their power for several days. Independent Inspectors and specialists were called in to look into the matter, and after their assessment, advised Texas to winterize their system and create backup capability to prevent this from happening again.

    Of course PRICK PERRY, the governor at the time, didn't do anything. AND SO HERE WE ARE!

    And not many people would ever be able to purchase a home- if they had to pay cash. That is why they created the Mortgage!

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    even more than your single wide
    Single wide? His trailer still has wheels and hubcaps! LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Well, I'm sure you are not happy that rent goes up that much every year, and yes, you are right- I READ WHERE REAL ESTATE AND RENT GOES UP ANNUALLY ABOUT 5% A YEAR ON THE AVERAGE ACROSS THE NATION.
    Part of that is because of increasing regulation on landlords and buildings. For example, just a couple of weeks ago I roughed in new electric for a two bedroom apartment originally built in the late 60's or early 70's. I had to remove old asbestos sheathed cable used to wire it originally, along with some aluminum wiring installed at some point in an upgrade. That came to $2500 and I was charging easily half price on what guys trying to make a full time living off doing that sort of thing would charge. I still have to do the finish when the drywallers and painters are done. That'll be another $1000.

    That doesn't include the cost of new insulation, drywall, paint, flooring, and whatever that one apartment is getting. I can easily predict it'll cost in excess of $20,000 to upgrade that one apartment in a 20 unit complex to bring it close to current code compliance. Yet, we have idiots like AOC and Joke telling us they're going to rehab hundreds of thousands of buildings to make them "energy efficient." They are totally full of shit.

    Of course, the owner of that complex is going to charge more for rent on that upgraded apartment too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Part of that is because of increasing regulation on landlords and buildings. For example, just a couple of weeks ago I roughed in new electric for a two bedroom apartment originally built in the late 60's or early 70's. I had to remove old asbestos sheathed cable used to wire it originally, along with some aluminum wiring installed at some point in an upgrade. That came to $2500 and I was charging easily half price on what guys trying to make a full time living off doing that sort of thing would charge. I still have to do the finish when the drywallers and painters are done. That'll be another $1000.

    That doesn't include the cost of new insulation, drywall, paint, flooring, and whatever that one apartment is getting. I can easily predict it'll cost in excess of $20,000 to upgrade that one apartment in a 20 unit complex to bring it close to current code compliance. Yet, we have idiots like AOC and Joke telling us they're going to rehab hundreds of thousands of buildings to make them "energy efficient." They are totally full of shit.

    Of course, the owner of that complex is going to charge more for rent on that upgraded apartment too...
    Regulations my ass! There are reasons for regulations! We are dealing with human beings here! If you don't regulate things, establish standards, rules, and laws- AMERICA WOULD SOON BE A SHIT HOLE COUNTRY- IF TRUMP HASN'T ALREADY TURNED US INTO ONE NOW!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Regulations my ass! There are reasons for regulations! We are dealing with human beings here! If you don't regulate things, establish standards, rules, and laws- AMERICA WOULD SOON BE A SHIT HOLE COUNTRY- IF TRUMP HASN'T ALREADY TURNED US INTO ONE NOW!
    Regulations cost money. They are not always necessary (I'd hold up as one the requirement for AFI in bedrooms per NEC 210.12).

    Arc Fault Outlets for the Home
    The Arc Fault Circuit Interrupter are used for specific Home Electrical Circuits as required by the NEC Code

    AFCI Arc Fault Circuit Interrupter Requirements for Homes
    The Arc Fault Circuit Interrupter is designed to turn off an electrical circuit when an arc is detected that can lead to a fire or other hazardous conditions within the range of the protection that the AFCI is able to detect. AFCI protection is now mentioned in the National Electrical Code and required in several areas of the home, and as adopted by your local building department or agency.

    NEC Codes for AFCI in Home Electrical Applications

    The following are just two instances of AFCI requirements within the NEC:
    210.12(B) Bedroom wiring methods AFCI outlet circuit.
    Arc Fault protection required for all outlets, defined by the NEC include all lighting fixtures, smoke detectors, and receptacles.
    210.12(B) Dwelling unit family rooms, dining rooms, living rooms, parlors, libraries, dens, bedrooms, sun rooms, recreation rooms, closets, hallways wiring methods require AFCI.
    Where the branch circuit wiring has been modified, replaced, or extended, the branch circuit shall be protected by a listed combination-type AFCI that is located at the origin of the branch circuit, or a listed outlet branch-circuit type AFCI located at the first receptacle outlet of the existing branch circuit.
    https://ask-the-electrician.com/afci...fci-arc-fault/

    Regulations are not always in the best interests of those they are forced on. So, implying in some blanket manner that regulations are for the good of society is the real idiocy here. Bureaucrats and vested interests often make these rules for their own interests rather than the good of society. Many turn out to be pedantic as well.
    Sure, we need regulations, but don't go claiming they are all good and necessary simply because they've been implemented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post

    And not many people would ever be able to purchase a home- if they had to pay cash. That is why they created the Mortgage!
    Rent an apartment and save money until you have enough to buy a small house with cash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Single wide? His trailer still has wheels and hubcaps! LOL!
    Don't use the word trailer. They are mobile homes and they reside at mobile home estates.
    Reckless drivers are a bigger threat to you than all other criminals put together!

    THE BIG LIE - Blacks and whites are different physically but identical mentally!

    There is no way 81 million americans voted for a man they know is a child molester w dementia. Impeach Joe the Pedophile Vegetable (JPV)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Regulations my ass! There are reasons for regulations! We are dealing with human beings here! If you don't regulate things, establish standards, rules, and laws- AMERICA WOULD SOON BE A SHIT HOLE COUNTRY- IF TRUMP HASN'T ALREADY TURNED US INTO ONE NOW!
    Most regulators are bought by the industry they are meant to regulate. Regulations are meant to stifle competition not protect the public. America is so corrupt.
    Reckless drivers are a bigger threat to you than all other criminals put together!

    THE BIG LIE - Blacks and whites are different physically but identical mentally!

    There is no way 81 million americans voted for a man they know is a child molester w dementia. Impeach Joe the Pedophile Vegetable (JPV)

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Regulations cost money. They are not always necessary (I'd hold up as one the requirement for AFI in bedrooms per NEC 210.12).

    Arc Fault Outlets for the Home
    The Arc Fault Circuit Interrupter are used for specific Home Electrical Circuits as required by the NEC Code

    AFCI Arc Fault Circuit Interrupter Requirements for Homes
    The Arc Fault Circuit Interrupter is designed to turn off an electrical circuit when an arc is detected that can lead to a fire or other hazardous conditions within the range of the protection that the AFCI is able to detect. AFCI protection is now mentioned in the National Electrical Code and required in several areas of the home, and as adopted by your local building department or agency.


    https://ask-the-electrician.com/afci...fci-arc-fault/

    Regulations are not always in the best interests of those they are forced on. So, implying in some blanket manner that regulations are for the good of society is the real idiocy here. Bureaucrats and vested interests often make these rules for their own interests rather than the good of society. Many turn out to be pedantic as well.
    Sure, we need regulations, but don't go claiming they are all good and necessary simply because they've been implemented.
    they're not supposed to be good for those they're forced on. it's for safety.

    are some extreme and corrupt? are some a barrier to entry for competition, put in place by cartels? yes. and yes.

    do some save lives? yes.

    the devil is in the details. always.

    the arc detector seems fine to me. is it not fine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    Most regulators are bought by the industry they are meant to regulate. Regulations are meant to stifle competition not protect the public. America is so corrupt.
    You must be too young to remember the breakup of AT&T!

    That regulation created lots of competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    Don't use the word trailer. They are mobile homes and they reside at mobile home estates.
    Thanks! You know I was just kidding.

    I've seen some of the newer models and they are as nice as any NEW CONVENTIONAL HOME!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    they're not supposed to be good for those they're forced on. it's for safety.


    I too am an "expert" when it comes to things electrical. AFCI are worthless. They were forced into code by manufacturers like Hubble who wanted to sell more product.

    are some extreme and corrupt? are some a barrier to entry for competition, put in place by cartels? yes. and yes.

    do some save lives? yes.
    I gave you an example of this.

    the devil is in the details. always.

    the arc detector seems fine to me. is it not fine?
    AFCI, Arc Fault Circuit Interrupts are a bunch of BS. They will trip if you unplug or plug in something that has a load on it, creating an arc as you do it. They can even trip when you have something like a portable heater that uses contacts that arc when making or breaking as a normal part of operation. AFCI are total bullshit. I know not just from knowledge, but actual experience in the field. Do you really want to pay me to reset a breaker because your portable electric heater tripped it and pay $30 + for that two minutes of work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post


    I too am an "expert" when it comes to things electrical. AFCI are worthless. They were forced into code by manufacturers like Hubble who wanted to sell more product.



    I gave you an example of this.



    AFCI, Arc Fault Circuit Interrupts are a bunch of BS. They will trip if you unplug or plug in something that has a load on it, creating an arc as you do it. They can even trip when you have something like a portable heater that uses contacts that arc when making or breaking as a normal part of operation. AFCI are total bullshit. I know not just from knowledge, but actual experience in the field. Do you really want to pay me to reset a breaker because your portable electric heater tripped it and pay $30 + for that two minutes of work?
    In Europe the standard voltage is 220-240V, not 110V like the US, yet they seem to be able to get by without all that crap especially arc protection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primavera View Post
    In Europe the standard voltage is 220-240V, not 110V like the US, yet they seem to be able to get by without all that crap especially arc protection.
    European electrical code differs from US. I've had to deal with IEE from Britain in the Middle East. It's less safe on a number of levels and is aimed more at grid stability than personal safety like in the US.

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