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Thread: San Trancisco gives free tents to homeless. Each tent costs $61,000!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by emptyboast View Post
    move to a better neighborhood stupid
    Like Nancy's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Two things would happen I imagine.

    1) They would be shocked to see it and that the City allows this to occur

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    2) They would be shocked you have to pay $2,500/mnth for one bedroom apt with all this occurring outside your front door
    I’d say shocked is an understatement

    It’s San Francisco, a segment of the City takes pride in their bohemian fame, unfortunately it doesn’t come without a cost

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Interesting story about your friend and I don't think it's totally uncommon. Neither my folks and sister are right-wingers. None of them voted for Trump. But listen to them talk about San Francisco politics and you'd think they were on the right. (I'm sure there are similar stories for some one growing up in an uber conservative town).

    If I can offer a perspective from someone who has lived here a long time. We have raised taxes and voted for bond measures multiple times over the years to address the homeless issue and it has not improved at all. At a certain when they come back to you and say 'we are going to raise taxes again to address homeless' it's understandable (to me at least) that people show skepticism.

    We've tried the same thing over and over. We need a different approach.
    It's entirely possible that there is no different (better) approach.

    And again.... as long as the people whose taxes are footing the bill aren't going hungry themselves or doing without the necessities of life because of it, unless they have a better solution, they really should not complain too loudly.

    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    I agree but I still struggle with the street drug dealers who stand in the open on a daily basis selling their stuff. They get arrested but nothing happens and they're back on the block. It goes back to the conundrum referenced earlier.
    Court dockets are crowded and so are jails and prisons.

    Judges know that.

    I guess they are prioritizing that kind of punishment for violent and truly dangerous individuals.

    Hiring more judges, prosecutors and public defenders then building and staffing more jails and prisons is astronomically expensive.

    To end these problems would require fundamentally changing human nature.

    Or reprogramming humans to not be bad anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primavera View Post
    S.F. pays $61,000 a year for one tent in a site to shelter the homeless. Why?

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/local/ar...e-16001074.php
    They clearly fucked up. I would have built them al tool sheds for a mere $60k

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    Quote Originally Posted by anchovies View Post
    It’s San Francisco, a segment of the City takes pride in their bohemian fame, unfortunately it doesn’t come without a cost
    Which is largely passed on to people who don't live there.

    Poor Anchovies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by China Joe View Post
    They clearly fucked up. I would have built them al tool sheds for a mere $60k
    Tools imply work.

    The homeless are already refusing to move into housing that the shitty city spent millions to provide for them because the WI-FI isn't good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    I'm not an expert here so I could be wrong but the big issue is you can't force the mentally ill into treatment or a center. They have to right essentially to live on the street. It's been a major battle for a number of years. The argument is what's more compassionate, allowing them to live freely on the streets or 'forcing' them into some type of 'home'.
    Correct in that being crazy isn't a crime. Only if a person is a danger to themselves or others can they be arrested and face a judge who will determine if prison or a mental facility is better for them.

    However, there's no law against making it a requirement to attend a class if someone wants a public tent that night.

    IMO, putting them into treatment is the most compassionate. The problem is determining who is mentally ill enough to require treatment. In the 50s, a husband could lock his wife up for "hysteria" then either leave her there or file for divorce (often illegal in many states hence Reno and Mexico for a quickly divorce) due to her "mental instability".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Which is largely passed on to people who don't live there.

    Poor Anchovies.
    Interesting considering California is one the biggest giver states in the US, if others are paying for anything it is the stimulus given to many Red States every year

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    you can be homeless.

    you can be a hoarder.

    we simply cannot allow homeless hoarders.

    you gotta be able to "move along" at daybreak.

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    Are you paying for them? Fuck off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anchovies View Post
    Interesting considering California is one the biggest giver states in the US, if others are paying for anything it is the stimulus given to many Red States every year
    So you say.

    The biggest problem with the balance of payments argument is that it's contrary to a progressive income tax system.

    The central principle of such a system is that taxpayers with a greater ability to pay, pay more.

    Calipornians pay more in federal income taxes on average than Mississippians because on average they earn more.


    Quote Originally Posted by anchovies View Post
    Simple fact Brietfart left out, “average per night cost of $190 is $82 dollars less than what the city pays to shelter someone in the homeless hotel program”
    Simple fact Anchovies left out: But unlike the hotel program, the tent sites are not eligible for federal reimbursement.

    Poor Anchovies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    you can be homeless. you can be a hoarder. we simply cannot allow homeless hoarders. you gotta be able to "move along" at daybreak.
    I'm OK with the Singaporean solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Are you paying for them? Fuck off.
    bottom line. some people will just choose to be irresponsible, no matter what.

    im not for rounding people up or outlawing pandhandling. can we just not have their shit all over our public spaces?

    they should have to have a bag that fits in the overhead compartment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Everyone who pays federal taxes is paying for them, angry boi.

    The majority of the costs will be reimbursed by the Federal Emergency Management Agency. [/SIZE][/B]https://www.sfchronicle.com/local/article/S-F-pays-61-000-a-year-for-one-tent-to-house-16001074.php [/marquee]
    Then tents are city, dumbass. Read your own fucking link, idiot.

    unlike the hotel program, the tent sites are not eligible for federal reimbursement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    bottom line.
    We are paying for them, at least some of us are.

    Tran Trancisco's bloated budget is regularly reimbursed by federal dollars.

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