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    Default Is white Christian nationalism actually a thing?

    A coalition of evangelical Christian leaders is condemning the role of "radicalized Christian nationalism" in feeding the political extremism that led to the violent insurrection at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 by supporters of former President Donald Trump.

    https://www.npr.org/2021/02/24/97068...m_campaign=npr
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    No, white Christian nationalism is not an actual thing.

    But it’s trying to be made into a thing and it’s disappointing/predictable that some Christian leaders would fall for it.

    Here’s and actual thing by comparison: Islamism. Islamism is the wedding of religious edicts with civil law. That’s an actual thing. Ask any poor bugger that had his fingers amputated for a petty crime in places where Islamic law has become civil law.

    I’m a white evangelical Trump so I can speak to this as well or better than anyone. Please don’t tell me why I voted for Trump. Thanks in advance.

    I didn’t vote for Trump twice so he could install Christian sharia. I voted for him because of his policy ideas and because of his *America* first nationalism. See that? Not Christian first, not God first—America first.

    But putting America first means I will retain the freedom to worship God as others are just as free not to. Which happens to be the way God wants it.

    But none of this has anything to do with border policy; with economic policy: with foreign policy or etc.

    See how easy that is?
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    Are white Evangelists radical Christian nationalists ? Are you kidding ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Are white Evangelists radical Christian nationalists ? Are you kidding ?


    Haw, haw.................................haw.
    Well, what radical ideas do I advocate lol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Well, what radical ideas do I advocate lol?
    You're a Neo-Zionist .
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    You're a Neo-Zionist .
    I had no idea lol.

    What else am I?
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    The conservative evangelical pastor Greg Locke, the founder of the Global Vision Bible Church in Mount Juliet, Tenn., epitomizes the mind-set Perry describes. In his Sept 2020 book, “This Means War” Locke writes, “We are one election away from losing everything we hold dear.” The battle, Locke continued, is “against everything evil and wicked in the world.” It is

    a rallying of the troops of God’s holy army. This is our day. This is our time. This means something for the Kingdom. As a matter of fact, THIS MEANS WAR.

    On Jan. 5, Locke tweeted:

    May the fire of the Holy Spirit fall upon Washington DC today and tomorrow. May the Lamb of God be exalted. Let God arise and His enemies be brought low.

    and just yesterday-

    GOP Congressman Skips COVID-19 Relief Vote To Speak At White Nationalist Rally


    Rep. Paul Gosar, a Republican from Arizona, spoke Friday night at a far-right extremist rally organized by white nationalist figurehead Nick Fuentes while his colleagues in the House passed a massive coronavirus relief package.

    Gosar, who has served in Congress for more than a decade, submitted a request to vote by proxy due to the threat of the pandemic.

    Yet instead of staying home, he traveled to Orlando, Florida, where he served as a surprise headliner at the America First Political Action Conference (AFPAC) alongside Steve King, the white nationalist former congressman from Iowa.

    The coronavirus aid passed the House with no Republican support and is now under consideration in the Senate.

    Fuentes, the main AFPAC organizer, attended both the deadly 2017 white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, and the U.S. Capitol riot of this year, although he claims he did not storm the building.

    His extremist event was held not far from the 2021 Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), where the Republican party is shaping its future in the wake of Donald Trump’s presidency. Gosar, a staunch Trump supporter who has pushed conspiracy theories about the 2020 election results, also appeared at CPAC for a panel discussion on Saturday.

    Key themes overlapped at both events, including support for Trump’s Make America Great Again agenda and gripes about immigration, Big Tech and so-called “cancel culture.”

    Officially, the theme of the 2021 CPAC is “America Uncanceled.” The event organizers were moved to cancel one of their speakers, however, after he voiced “reprehensible views” in the days leading up to his scheduled appearance.

    Gosar addressed the supposedly existential threat of censorship at AFPAC.

    “We have a climate crisis, but it’s not about the moon and the oceans. We have a climate crisis of intolerance,” he told the crowd gathered in a dark room.

    “A climate of angry, violent communism. Who will be censored next?”

    Unbound by the restraints of federal office, King once again defended his hateful ideology at AFPAC, unleashing the bizarre claim that his troubles stemmed from George Soros ― a billionaire philanthropist frequently targeted by antisemitic conspiracy theorists ― deciding “to weaponize ‘white nationalist.’”

    King’s first mention of Soros drew boos from the crowd, prompting him to quip, “You say, Donald Trump’s an applause line — George Soros, not so much!”

    He appeared to echo Trump’s battle-focused language that critics say helped incite his supporters to attack the Capitol, telling the crowd that they were “making allies for a lifetime” as “battle warriors for a lifetime to restore the strength of America.” King then concluded his remarks with a stunningly racist call to action that elicited loud chants of “USA!”

    “We can restore this country, and we can do it with our babies, and we can do it with our values! God bless you all!” King said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    I had no idea lol.

    What else am I?
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    Maybe the OP can explain this, coincidence or intentional?

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    Default Even authentic Christians see the threat of Christian nationalism

    The opinion of one obscure and not very well educated rightwing message board poster does not carry the weight of the thousands of prominent Christian leaders who recognize white Christian nationalism is a threat to liberty and reason.

    “I have never seen anything in these United States of America I found more astonishingly seductive & dangerous to the saints of God than Trumpism. This Christian nationalism is not of God. Move back from it.”

    -Beth Moore, American evangelist, author, founder of Living Proof Ministries

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    Quote Originally Posted by CASPER View Post
    May the OP can explain this, coincidence or intentional?

    If I thought it was actually intended to signify nazism I would comment further lol.

    Trump was an exceedingly poor Nazi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    The opinion of one obscure and not very well educated rightwing message board poster does not carry the weight of the thousands of prominent Christian leaders who recognize white Christian nationalism is a threat to liberty and reason.
    But how can I know if I’ve been seduced by Trump’s Christian nationalism if I can’t even define it myself lol?
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    Ask the FBI.

    Is Darth actually a troll?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Ask the FBI.

    Is Darth actually a troll?
    I’ve seen the FBI bark up some absurd trees of late.

    If Christian nationalism is something other than a boogeyman I would think someone would be able to explain it in a few short sentences. Something without an appeal to consensus opinion would be nice.

    Still waiting.
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    Default A Christian professor of theology can explain it for you

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    But how can I know if I’ve been seduced by Trump’s Christian nationalism if I can’t even define it myself lol?
    Christian Theologian Michael Horton believes Christian Trumpism represents the confluence of three trends that have come together, namely Christian Americanism, end-times conspiracy, and the prosperity gospel -- with Christian Americanism being the narrative that God specially called the United States into being as an extraordinary if not miraculous providence and end-times conspiracy referring to the world's annihilation (figurative or literal) due to some conspiracy of nefarious groups and globalist powers threatening American sovereignty.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trum...stian_Trumpism

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    If I thought it was actually intended to signify nazism I would comment further lol.

    Trump was an exceedingly poor Nazi.
    So you claim it is coincidence.

    trump did not set up the stage, his followers designed and built it, so who knows.

    So we happen to have a Gold trump Statue (the Golden Calf from the Christian Faith) and a stage that mimics a Nazi rune (Hardcore Nationalism), yeup, nothing to see here...

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