Is Newt Right?

[Doc Dutch]

He just said on Tucker that the D's already know that they will lose the house in two years, so they simply dont give a fuck, they are ramming through the Revolution now..."GIVE IT EVERYTHING YOU HAVE GOT.....IT IS EITHER NOW OR NEVER!!!"

I am skeptical.

Both parties know things can change every election. I doubt they'll lose the House unless they royally fuck up, but losing the Senate is a very good possibility.

No doubt Newt skipped over how the Republican Party was eating itself alive with the civil war between traditional Republicans and the Qless Trumpians.

[Doc Dutch]

I don’t know about that. I think mail in ballots will be difficult to eradicate from dim shitholes. They’ve found a fairly easy way to fabricate votes.

The only thing dim is the idea that our elections are fraudulent and geared to win every election for the Democrats.

Trump is a lying, adulterous sexual predator and coward. He'll say anything to excuse being a loser.

[Geeko Sportivo]

Newt is pretty much correct. The last three times a Democrat occupied the White House, in the mid-term elections the Democrats got creamed in Congressional elections. They also lost heavily at the state level. The odds are damn good it'll happen this time too.

I am going to call your comment WISHFULL THINKING!

It sure would be nice, if every time we wished something would come true- it would! BUt in life, we don't always get what we wish for!

Cycles are somewhat predictable, however, I believe America has crossed a threshold- and that is- there is now a provable Majority of Democrats willing to vote- than there are Republicans.

On November 4th, 2020, 85 Million Democrats voted- yet only 74.2 million Republicans voted!

One trend says that not all the same voters show up to the mid-terms, as they do in the Presidential elections.

AND YES, the red states will RE-DRAW their districts by gerrymandering them to make less minority votes count, as they always do.

AND YES, HR-1 will go into affect to prevent a lot of the STATE VOTING LAWS intended to suppress minority votes in the red states.

But given these two variables, they will probably offset each other for the mid-terms.

AND clearly, the Democrats are gaining more votes than the Republicans are- even though the Republicans are gaining votes as well.

The Democrats are confident now more than ever about the number of Democrat voters participating in elections, and we like our chances on winning back the House Seats in the upcoming Mid-Terms!

Even if the Democrats win the Mid Terms, I'm not ready to call the Democrats a dynasty as of yet, but I'll just say that there will be a lot of new recruits and registrations between now and 2022 in NOT JUST THE RED STATES, BUT IN ALL STATES.

Most People will be voting their paychecks in 2022- and the Democrats intend to increase these over the next 18 months.

There is an old saying that SUCCESS BREEDS SUCCESS!

AND IT SURE IS GREAT BEING A DEMOCRAT AND WATCHING THE DEMOCRATS SUCCEED- in spite of the Republicans trying their best to OBSTRUCT THEIR PROGRESS!

[T. A. Gardner]

I am going to call your comment WISHFULL THINKING!

It sure would be nice, if every time we wished something would come true- it would!

Not wishful thinking but a commentary based on a solid track record and historical evidence.

Cycles are somewhat predictable, however, I believe America has crossed a threshold- and that is there is now a provable Majority of Democrats willing to vote- than there are Republicans.

On November 4th, 2020, 85 Million Democrats voted- yet only 74.2 million Republicans voted!

One trend says that not all the same voters show up to the mid-terms, as they do in the Presidential elections.

Your last statement is true, and it's also true that the Democrats and party in power tend to be the ones that don't show up for mid-terms. This is not new and you can go back decades to read articles that say that then and ones that are saying it now.

AND YES, the red states will RE-DRAW their districts by gerrymandering them to make less minority votes count, as they always do.

And so will Blue states. So?

AND YES, HR-1 will go into affect to prevent a lot of the STATE VOTING LAWS intended to suppress minority votes in the red states.

There's little to zero chance it will pass the Senate even if the Democrats take the shotgun in the foot of eliminating the filibuster. Aside from that, have you actually read what's in this POS legislation? It is one giant unconstitutional piece of dubious legality legislation. For example, on page 51 (yes, I read it yesterday) of the bill it allows anyone sixteen (16) years old to register to vote when they get their driver's license. Now, the legal voting age is 18 so how you can register to vote and not be eligible to vote is a dilemma that will no doubt end up at the Supreme Court, and doesn't bode well for the bill or Democrats. Just to hammer this home, on pages 28 and 29, on-line and mail-in registration to vote are made legal along with the use of an e-signature. You know, one of those programs where you choose a signature close to your actual one, but it isn't actually your signature. Talk about a major source of potential fraud!

But given these two variables, they will probably offset each other for the mid-terms.

Given the actual history of mid-term elections since the 1980's it's very likely the Democrats will get hammered in 2022.

BUT clearly, the Democrats are gaining more votes than the Republicans are- even though the Republicans are gaining votes as well.

This isn't true either. The biggest voting bloc in the US today is Independent / no party preference. These are the voters that decide elections, not Democrats or Republicans. They swing between the two parties and could easily shift (and likely will) towards the Republicans.

But the Democrats are confident now more than ever about the number of Democrat voters participating in elections, and we like our chances on winning back the House Seats in the upcoming Mid-Terms!

Contrary to a growing list of articles by political pundits who are saying the exact opposite.

Even if the Democrats win the Mid Terms, I'm not ready to call the Democrats a dynasty as of yet, but I'll just say that there will be a lot of new recruits and registrations between now and 2022 in NOT JUST THE RED STATES, BUT IN ALL STATES.

They aren't likely to win and the Democrats have no lock on power. It's normal in the US for power to shift between the two parties.

Most People will be voting their paychecks in 2022- and the Democrats intend to increase these over the next 18 months.

Exactly how? The $15 minimum wage looks dead and buried. Even Biden's administration is saying that. The Democrats dropped it from their latest porkulus package because they knew it was a bill killer. So, what are they going to do to increase paychecks over the next 18 months? Reduce taxes? Not a chance. Reduce business regulation? Free up more federal land for use and resource extraction? Biden's already killed that one... What are they going to do to do this?

There is an old saying that SUCCESS BREEDS SUCCESS!

Or in the Democrat's case, Insanity is defined as doing the same thing repeatedly despite failing at it every time...

AND IT SURE IS GREAT BEING A DEMOCRAT AND WATCHING THE DEMOCRATS SUCCEED- in spite of the Republicans trying their best to OBSTRUCT THEM!

I'm glad that you are enjoying your delusion.

[Tranquillus in Exile]

we've reached peak imbecile.

If you say so.

it's now or never for the new world order.

Is the NWO in on this too? They were behind 9/11, you know.

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

If you say so.



Is the NWO in on this too? They were behind 9/11, you know.

yes.

[Bill]

It was nothing compared to the pasting the Democrats were handed each time. .

This is a winner take all system.....

I guess in times like these some must find solace were they can..

[Geeko Sportivo]

Not wishful thinking but a commentary based on a solid track record and historical evidence.



Your last statement is true, and it's also true that the Democrats and party in power tend to be the ones that don't show up for mid-terms. This is not new and you can go back decades to read articles that say that then and ones that are saying it now.



And so will Blue states. So?



There's little to zero chance it will pass the Senate even if the Democrats take the shotgun in the foot of eliminating the filibuster. Aside from that, have you actually read what's in this POS legislation? It is one giant unconstitutional piece of dubious legality legislation. For example, on page 51 (yes, I read it yesterday) of the bill it allows anyone sixteen (16) years old to register to vote when they get their driver's license. Now, the legal voting age is 18 so how you can register to vote and not be eligible to vote is a dilemma that will no doubt end up at the Supreme Court, and doesn't bode well for the bill or Democrats. Just to hammer this home, on pages 28 and 29, on-line and mail-in registration to vote are made legal along with the use of an e-signature. You know, one of those programs where you choose a signature close to your actual one, but it isn't actually your signature. Talk about a major source of potential fraud!



Given the actual history of mid-term elections since the 1980's it's very likely the Democrats will get hammered in 2022.



This isn't true either. The biggest voting bloc in the US today is Independent / no party preference. These are the voters that decide elections, not Democrats or Republicans. They swing between the two parties and could easily shift (and likely will) towards the Republicans.



Contrary to a growing list of articles by political pundits who are saying the exact opposite.



They aren't likely to win and the Democrats have no lock on power. It's normal in the US for power to shift between the two parties.



Exactly how? The $15 minimum wage looks dead and buried. Even Biden's administration is saying that. The Democrats dropped it from their latest porkulus package because they knew it was a bill killer. So, what are they going to do to increase paychecks over the next 18 months? Reduce taxes? Not a chance. Reduce business regulation? Free up more federal land for use and resource extraction? Biden's already killed that one... What are they going to do to do this?



Or in the Democrat's case, Insanity is defined as doing the same thing repeatedly despite failing at it every time...



I'm glad that you are enjoying your delusion.

Thanks for all of your input, but we will just have to agree to disagree!

One trend that stopped with Donald Trump- Donald Trump is the first president in the last 28 years to be rejected and not re-elected!

SO AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED- WITH DONALD TRUMP STILL LEADING YOUR PARTY IN THE WRONG DIRECTION- THE REPUBLICANS WILL FAIL TO WIN IN THE Midterms!

Fair warning! Get rid of that 1,000 lb. GORILLA on your backs!

[Doc Dutch]

It was nothing compared to the pasting the Democrats were handed each time. The Democrats gained ground but not the sort of drubbing they took when they occupied the White House.

For example in Obama's first term mid-term election, the House and Senate had "super majorities" of Democrats in both. In the Senate they had 60 seats. They lost 63 seats in the House and 6 in the Senate. In addition, the Republicans gained 6 governorships and flipped 20 state legislatures. While the Democrats held onto the Senate they lost their ability to unilaterally pass legislation, while in the House the Republicans took control.

Arguably, the major cause was the passage of Obamacare.

Same thing with Clinton and Carter before him.

Right now, the Democrats barely control the Senate and have a slim majority in the House. It's likely both will flip in 2022 to Republican control. That dooms Biden's ability to get anything done without major cooperation from Republicans.

This is a winner take all system.....

I guess in times like there some must find solace were they can..

Agreed on the "winner take all system". Also note several past elections have several common factors:
1) More Americans voted against the winner than for them.
2) About 70% of American voters are against either party. This is due, of course, to the fact the US has a very high Independent rate among voters, about 40%, of which I'm one.
3) Most elections are very narrow and seem to be getting narrower. How many times has the Senate been 50/50? The House with such narrow margins?

[Doc Dutch]

Thanks for all of your input, but we will just have to agree to disagree!

One trend that stopped with Donald Trump- Donald Trump is the first president in the last 28 years to be rejected and not re-elected!

SO AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED- WITH DONALD TRUMP STILL LEADING YOUR PARTY IN THE WRONG DIRECTION- THE REPUBLICANS WILL FAIL TO WIN IN THE Midterms!

Unfortunately, I agree. The Republicans are a basket case at the moment and their troubles are not over. Even the Republicans know they have several "rebuilding years" to go before taking the Democrats down.

[Geeko Sportivo]

Unfortunately, I agree. The Republicans are a basket case at the moment and their troubles are not over. Even the Republicans know they have several "rebuilding years" to go before taking the Democrats down.

The Trumptarded factor in the Republican party is directly causing them to be a basket case.

It's not going to be an easy win for the Republicans even if they drop Trump. Trump is like a virus that has many lifetime complications- even after it's cure and it's out of pandemic proportion.

Once trust is lost in a Political party, it's hard to re-establish trust!

[Doc Dutch]

The Trumptarded factor in the Republican party is directly causing them to be a basket case.

It's not going to be an easy win for the Republicans even if they drop Trump. Trump is like a virus that has many lifetime complications- even after it's cure and it's out of pandemic proportion.

Once trust is lost in a Political party, it's hard to re-establish trust!

Agreed, but the mess actually started before Newt when Trump was just another Democrat pedophile hanging out with Jeffrey, Bill and Ghislaine.

The Trumpeteers are just the latest, and probably last, incarnation of the wacky side of the Republican party.

[Bill]

Agreed on the "winner take all system". Also note several past elections have several common factors:
1) More Americans voted against the winner than for them.
2) About 70% of American voters are against either party. This is due, of course, to the fact the US has a very high Independent rate among voters, about 40%, of which I'm one.
3) Most elections are very narrow and seem to be getting narrower. How many times has the Senate been 50/50? The House with such narrow margins?

Most excellent points..

You & I seem to be the only ones that seem to notice or care..

[Doc Dutch]

Most excellent points..

You & I seem to be the only ones that seem to notice or care..

I think it's a sign of the times. Remember when GW won reelection with 52% of the vote and declared he had a "mandate from the People"? Were you thinking "WTF?" like me?

The nation is narrowly divided. Some people interpret that to mean "we're on the verge of civil war". Others, me included, interpret that to mean, most of us aren't happy with either party and are usually voting for the challenger in each election to keep the dominant part off balance.

[Celticguy]

No. They know that all future elections will have predetermined winners so it no longer matters.