You're an essential worker but not worth $15 per hour minimum wage

[Doc Dutch]

There is assault on the working class in the USA and both parties can go fuck themselves! Yes!

The USA is a failed state for the average person.

So what's next?

[gfm7175]

That is different for everyone.

A single person can live off far less then a family of eight.

So what is a livable wage, the one for the single person or the one for the family?

You would need to establish different livable wages but then that doesn't work either.

What is living on your own?

Is that living in your car or an apartment or a house?

Is it living in San Francisco or Alabama?

Is it the guy with no debt or the guy with mountains of credit card and medical bills?

So explain what a livable wage is please.

BINGO. It is an entirely subjective and unquantified term that the left loves to throw around... See my "Lispy Leftist List of Linguistic Lunacy" (in my sig) for more of such terminology of theirs.

[Althea]

Maybe the people who they represent should vote on their pay increases rather than themselves voting on it? Or even better yet, maybe it shouldn't be an option for a career (term limits)? However, at this point, they'll never vote their own career away...

Agree on all counts

[Althea]

Where are these numbers coming from?


Would it? Operating under my made-up number of $12/hour, if mandated up to $15/hour, that would cost a company an additional $6,240 per year per employee on their labor expense alone.

You are also assuming that the company would still be able to sell the same amount of drinks at the increased rate (which would need to be at least 24,960 drinks per year per employee in order for a $0.25 per drink price increase to offset the increased labor expense).

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According to one source I found, a typical store sells over 3000 drinks/day. Breaking it down to a daily wage, the bump in pay costs the employer $24/day. 100 drinks/day covers that cost and then some. The most expensive ingredient in a soda is the cup. Always has been.

They can easily add $.15 to every item on the menu, and they wouldn't lose any business.

[Tinker]

And invoking Africa as well?

I didn’t try to define livable wage, you fucking moron.

Nope, not according to me, you illiterate fuck. I never said anything of the like.

Goddam, some of you fucks can’t comprehend simple English..

You are wise to back down.

Run along now.

[domer76]

You are wise to back down.

Run along now.

Here I am, bitch. What other lies do you have that I can correct?

[Tinker]

Here I am, bitch. What other lies do you have that I can correct?

What lies have you corrected exactly?

And save your pathetic internet tough guy crap, nobody believes you puss.

[domer76]

What lies have you corrected exactly?

And save your pathetic internet tough guy crap, nobody believes you puss.

Post #97, lying bitch.

Next, liar?

[Darth Omar]

A Minimum Wage should be a Livable Wage.
If the Employee has to collect Welfare to survive, that's called 'Socialism for the Company'.

Or a shortage of good paying jobs, depending on how you want to look at it.

I’m old enough to remember when you could get out of HS and get an entry level job doing something/anything at one of the local plants or yes, even a coal mine. Two years later you’re bumped up and you’re looking to buy a house and etc because you’re making decent money.

But those jobs went to China and other places—mostly China. THAT is the fundamental problem. Paying people a ‘living wage’ so they can make a career out of an entry level job simply isn’t sustainable. It just isn’t going to work for myriad reasons.

[Doc Dutch]

A Minimum Wage should be a Livable Wage.
If the Employee has to collect Welfare to survive, that's called 'Socialism for the Company'.

Or a shortage of good paying jobs, depending on how you want to look at it.

I’m old enough to remember when you could get out of HS and get an entry level job doing something/anything at one of the local plants or yes, even a coal mine. Two years later you’re bumped up and you’re looking to buy a house and etc because you’re making decent money.

But those jobs went to China and other places—mostly China. THAT is the fundamental problem. Paying people a ‘living wage’ so they can make a career out of an entry level job simply isn’t sustainable. It just isn’t going to work for myriad reasons.

A minimum wage is just that, a minimum. A liveable wage is a different matter.

There are jobs out there but because too many people are stupid or lazy, they won't do what it takes to get those jobs. Namely educate themselves and/or move to where the fucking jobs are. Instead, they want a $50K/year job with an HS diploma and never have to leave town and family.

[CASPER]

Or a shortage of good paying jobs, depending on how you want to look at it.

I’m old enough to remember when you could get out of HS and get an entry level job doing something/anything at one of the local plants or yes, even a coal mine. Two years later you’re bumped up and you’re looking to buy a house and etc because you’re making decent money.

But those jobs went to China and other places—mostly China. THAT is the fundamental problem. Paying people a ‘living wage’ so they can make a career out of an entry level job simply isn’t sustainable. It just isn’t going to work for myriad reasons.

Is that right? Well, Kroger Foods just put out a statement that the majority of their workers are now making $15.50 or more per hour and guess what, it is not hurting their business or their customers one bit.

We hardly ever increase the minimum wage and when we do it is pennies. Keep in mind that that $7.25 pr hr is not worth the same as it was 20 or 30 years ago. What needs to be done is to set a decent starting wage and then increase it to keep up with the cost of living, this is not rocket science folks.

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/min.../history/chart

[Darth Omar]

A minimum wage is just that, a minimum. A liveable wage is a different matter.

There are jobs out there but because too many people are stupid or lazy, they won't do what it takes to get those jobs. Namely educate themselves and/or move to where the fucking jobs are. Instead, they want a $50K/year job with an HS diploma and never have to leave town and family.

I thought they called it a ‘living wage’ or whatever.

I’m not up on my leftism. But yeah, America is still a land of opportunity in spite of some it’s brain dead policies.

[Darth Omar]

Is that right? Well, Kroger Foods just put out a statement that the majority of their workers are now making $15.50 or more per hour and guess what, it is not hurting their business or their customers one bit.

We hardly ever increase the minimum wage and when we do it is pennies. Keep in mind that that $7.25 pr hr is not worth the same as it was 20 or 30 years ago. What needs to be done is to set a decent starting wage and then increase it to keep up with the cost of living, this is not rocket science folks.

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/min.../history/chart

Kroger’s is in good shape since the CCP guidelines left them unmolested. Have you noticed their increase in self-checkouts?

Forcing small businesses to pay employees $15/hour will sink them or force them to cut hours and/or jobs.

It’s a bad idea.

[CASPER]

Kroger’s is in good shape since the CCP guidelines left them unmolested. Have you noticed their increase in self-checkouts?

Forcing small businesses to pay employees $15/hour will sink them or force them to cut hours and/or jobs.

It’s a bad idea.

CCP?

It is a phased in process, and no history has shown otherwise.

No it is not.

[Doc Dutch]

I thought they called it a ‘living wage’ or whatever.

I’m not up on my leftism. But yeah, America is still a land of opportunity in spite of some it’s brain dead policies.

They want hamburger flipping and sweeping floors to be career professions paying over $30K/year to start.

They forget that robots are cheaper.