Question for socialist supporters aka democrats

[Bulletbob]

If socialism is so great why do millions of Hispanics come here and not to the workers paradise in Venezuela and Cuba ? They are even closer in most cases .

[AProudLefty]

If socialism is so great why do millions of Hispanics come here and not to the workers paradise in Venezuela and Cuba ? They are even closer in most cases .

What makes you think it's because of socialism?

[Bulletbob]

What makes you think it's because of socialism?

you dont get it do you,

[AProudLefty]

you dont get it do you,

Oh I get it. It's always the same claim. Socialism is always claimed to be responsible for the mess in Venezuela.

[Bulletbob]

Oh I get it. It's always the same claim. Socialism is always claimed to be responsible for the mess in Venezuela.

O yes socialist governments are such a huge success .

[floridafan]

O yes socialist governments are such a huge success .

Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Norway are huge successes

[Yakuda]

Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Norway are huge successes

Not a single one of those is a socialist country

[Yakuda]

Oh I get it. It's always the same claim. Socialism is always claimed to be responsible for the mess in Venezuela.

So what's the cause for the mess then?

[Matt Dillon]

What makes you think it's because of socialism?

Ask them, they will tell you it's because of Socialism.

[floridafan]

Not a single one of those is a socialist country

Democratic socialist if you know what that is. Its far different from totally socialist states.

[Yakuda]

Democratic socialist if you know what that is. Its far different from totally socialist states.

Are you prepared to tell half the American population that doesn't currently pay federal income taxes that they will now have to pay those taxes if we follow the Nordic model?

[floridafan]

Are you prepared to tell half the American population that doesn't currently pay federal income taxes that they will now have to pay those taxes if we follow the Nordic model?

WTF are you talking about?

[Yakuda]

WTF are you talking about?

You realize don't you that nearly half of the American population doesn't pay federal income tax. Please dont tell me you dont now that! Next the Nordic countries have a flat tax. Denmark's marginal tax rate is 60% and it applies to EVERYONE who earns more that 1.2 times the average income. The average income in the US as a comparison is $50000. So if we use denmarks model EVERYONE earning more than $50000 would pay a flat 60% of their income to taxes. You ready to pitch that to the American people?

[floridafan]

You realize don't you that nearly half of the American population doesn't pay federal income tax. Please dont tell me you dont now that! Next the Nordic countries have a flat tax. Denmark's marginal tax rate is 60% and it applies to EVERYONE who earns more that 1.2 times the average income. The average income in the US as a comparison is $50000. So if we use denmarks model EVERYONE earning more than $50000 would pay a flat 60% of their income to taxes. You ready to pitch that to the American people?

Lets stay on topic. The countries I mentioned are socialist states, only their form of socialism is different that what you would find in a country such as Venezuela. Therefore you cannot make the broad statement that socialism is so terrible.

[Yakuda]

Lets stay on topic. The countries I mentioned are socialist states, only their form of socialism is different that what you would find in a country such as Venezuela. Therefore you cannot make the broad statement that socialism is so terrible.

I just pointed out to you how the Nordic countries work. Are you prepared to tell Americans making more than $50,000 that they will ALL have to pay 60% of their income to the govt? Also those countries have a value added tax which is a sales tax on everything people buy. Again EVERYONE pays those taxes. In Norway sweden and Denmark the value added tax on all sales is 25%. When do you want to have Biden roll out that plan?