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    Default More Green Blackouts: Bidenís regulators are ignoring the gridís vulnerability

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    Youíd think the Texas blackouts would trigger some soul-searching about the vulnerability of Americaís electrical grid. Not in todayís hothouse of climate politics. The Biden Administration is already moving to stop an examination of grid vulnerability to promote unreliable renewable energy sources.

    Regulators have been warning for years that the grid is becoming shakier as cheap natural gas and heavily subsidized renewables replace steady coal and nuclear baseload power. ďThe nationís power grid will be stressed in ways never before experiencedĒ due to ďan unprecedented resource-mix change,Ē the North American Electric Reliability Corporation (NERC) warned in 2011.

    It added: ďEnvironmental regulations are shown to be the number one risk to reliability over the next one to five years.Ē But the Obama Federal Energy Regulatory Commission(FERC) refused to consider how climate policies would affect reliability. Since 2011 about 90 gigawatts (GW) of coal capacity have shut down, replaced by some 120 GW of wind and solar and 60 GW of gas power capacity.

    But renewables donít generate power around-the-clock as gas, nuclear and coal do. Gas plants depend on just-in-time fuel deliveries, which arenít reliable in extreme weather. Government-made pipeline bottlenecks constrain deliveries in the Northeast. Liberals also say Texas could have better weathered the Arctic blast if its grid didnít rely almost entirely on in-state power.

    But the Southwest Power Pool, north of Texas, and the Midwest power gridóboth of which rely heavily on wind backed by gasóalso experienced power outages last week due to surging demand, declining wind production and gas shortages. California relies on gas and imports to back up its solar power. But last summer California couldnít get enough power from its neighbors amid a heat wave that strained the entire Western grid. Hydropower from the Northwest and coal from Utah couldnít stop blackouts.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/more-gr...ad-11614125061
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primavera View Post
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    You’d think the Texas blackouts would trigger some soul-searching about the vulnerability of America’s electrical grid. Not in today’s hothouse of climate politics. The Biden Administration is already moving to stop an examination of grid vulnerability to promote unreliable renewable energy sources.

    Regulators have been warning for years that the grid is becoming shakier as cheap natural gas and heavily subsidized renewables replace steady coal and nuclear baseload power. “The nation’s power grid will be stressed in ways never before experienced” due to “an unprecedented resource-mix change,” the North American Electric Reliability Corporation (NERC) warned in 2011.

    It added: “Environmental regulations are shown to be the number one risk to reliability over the next one to five years.” But the Obama Federal Energy Regulatory Commission(FERC) refused to consider how climate policies would affect reliability. Since 2011 about 90 gigawatts (GW) of coal capacity have shut down, replaced by some 120 GW of wind and solar and 60 GW of gas power capacity.

    But renewables don’t generate power around-the-clock as gas, nuclear and coal do. Gas plants depend on just-in-time fuel deliveries, which aren’t reliable in extreme weather. Government-made pipeline bottlenecks constrain deliveries in the Northeast. Liberals also say Texas could have better weathered the Arctic blast if its grid didn’t rely almost entirely on in-state power.

    But the Southwest Power Pool, north of Texas, and the Midwest power grid—both of which rely heavily on wind backed by gas—also experienced power outages last week due to surging demand, declining wind production and gas shortages. California relies on gas and imports to back up its solar power. But last summer California couldn’t get enough power from its neighbors amid a heat wave that strained the entire Western grid. Hydropower from the Northwest and coal from Utah couldn’t stop blackouts.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/more-gr...ad-11614125061
    The article that you're using for a reference is an opinion article, and that is stated in the headline, so we need to take what's in this article with a grain of salt. Personally, I feel that the best option for reliable and no green house gas energy is nuclear, mixed with solar and wind, but here again, that's my opinion, and not everybody is going to agree with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpet View Post
    The article that you're using for a reference is an opinion article, and that is stated in the headline, so we need to take what's in this article with a grain of salt. Personally, I feel that the best option for reliable and no green house gas energy is nuclear, mixed with solar and wind, but here again, that's my opinion, and not everybody is going to agree with me.
    Nuclear is not really dispatchable like gas, pumped storage and hydro. Wind and solar are best used to create green hydrogen via electrolysis for fuel cells in cars, buses and trucks. Ammonia has great potential as well but it's still early days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primavera View Post
    The Biden Administration is already moving to stop an examination of grid vulnerability to promote unreliable renewable energy sources.]
    I doubt that Biden is even aware of what's going on. Why would the radical DEMOCRATS "stop an examination of grid vulnerability to promote unreliable renewable energy sources"?

    Perhaps some of them are ideologically motivated by the tenets of the Warmist Cult. Others may be in debt to "green" energy producers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primavera View Post
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    Youíd think the Texas blackouts would trigger some soul-searching about the vulnerability of Americaís electrical grid. Not in todayís hothouse of climate politics. The Biden Administration is already moving to stop an examination of grid vulnerability to promote unreliable renewable energy sources.

    Regulators have been warning for years that the grid is becoming shakier as cheap natural gas and heavily subsidized renewables replace steady coal and nuclear baseload power. ďThe nationís power grid will be stressed in ways never before experiencedĒ due to ďan unprecedented resource-mix change,Ē the North American Electric Reliability Corporation (NERC) warned in 2011.

    It added: ďEnvironmental regulations are shown to be the number one risk to reliability over the next one to five years.Ē But the Obama Federal Energy Regulatory Commission(FERC) refused to consider how climate policies would affect reliability. Since 2011 about 90 gigawatts (GW) of coal capacity have shut down, replaced by some 120 GW of wind and solar and 60 GW of gas power capacity.

    But renewables donít generate power around-the-clock as gas, nuclear and coal do. Gas plants depend on just-in-time fuel deliveries, which arenít reliable in extreme weather. Government-made pipeline bottlenecks constrain deliveries in the Northeast. Liberals also say Texas could have better weathered the Arctic blast if its grid didnít rely almost entirely on in-state power.

    But the Southwest Power Pool, north of Texas, and the Midwest power gridóboth of which rely heavily on wind backed by gasóalso experienced power outages last week due to surging demand, declining wind production and gas shortages. California relies on gas and imports to back up its solar power. But last summer California couldnít get enough power from its neighbors amid a heat wave that strained the entire Western grid. Hydropower from the Northwest and coal from Utah couldnít stop blackouts.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/more-gr...ad-11614125061

    your assertion that Texas is a bunch of fuck ups is correct

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    More misinfo from the asshole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    More misinfo from the asshole.
    I really hope there are mass blackouts in California soon and especially where you live. If your house burns down that's even better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    More misinfo from the asshole.
    Surely you can prove it wrong then. Come on big guy. Show us what you know. LOL simpleton

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    I doubt that Biden is even aware of what's going on. Why would the radical DEMOCRATS "stop an examination of grid vulnerability to promote unreliable renewable energy sources"?

    Perhaps some of them are ideologically motivated by the tenets of the Warmist Cult. Others may be in debt to "green" energy producers.
    It's the republicans who refused an infrastructure bill.

    May 3 2019


    President Trump faces stiff opposition from Republicans in his desire for a massive infrastructure package.

    GOP lawmakers say the president’s grand proposal for a $2 trillion deal is too ambitious and warn that they will oppose any measure that adds to the deficit.

    House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) also sounded skeptical.

    “How do you pay for it? That's the biggest question — that's the hardest part,” he told The Hill.

    When asked how to pay for infrastructure in lieu of tax increases, GOP lawmakers say they need more time to study the issue.

    Fischer said she hasn’t traditionally favored passing a comprehensive infrastructure package and says it’s “more realistic” to pass separate bills funding roads, rail, ports, airports, broadband internet, and power transmission.

    Many Republicans were caught off guard by Tuesday’s announcement that Democratic leaders reached a deal with Trump to pursue a $2 trillion infrastructure package. GOP lawmakers were not invited to the White House meeting.

    Republicans pushed back immediately on some of the core elements that emerged from that meeting, particularly the price tag and that the federal government would kick in the lion’s share of funding.

    Rep. Bradley Byrne (R-Ala.), a candidate for the Senate in 2020, told The Hill that “$2 trillion is a lot of money".

    thehill.com/policy/transportation/441909-trumps...

    Not when it comes to corporate tax cuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by no scruples View Post
    It's the republicans who refused an infrastructure bill.
    Whataboutism.

    Radical DEMOCRATS want to "stop an examination of grid vulnerability to promote unreliable renewable energy sources".

    That's the topic.

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    Infrastructure change is coming!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Infrastructure change is coming!
    Why would the radical DEMOCRATS "stop an examination of grid vulnerability to promote unreliable renewable energy sources"?

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    But the Southwest Power Pool, north of Texas, and the Midwest power gridóboth of which rely heavily on wind backed by gasóalso experienced power outages last week due to surging demand, declining wind production and gas shortages.
    wtf does "infrastructure" have to do with this? ^ you idiots hear a buzzword and jump on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Infrastructure change is coming!
    WTF does that mean. Grid reliability because of ENERGY SOURCE is the problem!

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