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    Default Biden's Syria strike shows the folly of Establishment 'counter-terrorism'

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tuck...nter-terrorism
    U.S. is attacking the Assad government, the only government in the entire Middle East that's protected the most ancient of religious minorities, the Christian community. They've been slaughtered everywhere except in territory that Assad controls. But he's a brutal dictator, so that doesn't count....


    we're doing all of this for our Kurdish partners. Did you know we had Kurdish partners? Did you want them? What exactly have we partnered to do?

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    Biden sent F-15s to kill people in Syria. No one in this country benefited from that, not even in the smallest, most theoretical way. That in itself was deeply reassuring to the political class in Washington. They consider any attempt to improve this country a terrifying form of nationalism. However, to those people, the idea of killing people in a faraway place is absolutely thrilling.

    The official word, in case you weren't tuned in to CNN and MSNBC, is that America killing strangers in Syria was not pointless. That comes straight from experts who believe that Saddam had bioweapons and started a war on the basis of it.

    Thursday's strike against Syria, they told us, was "counter-terrorism" and counter- terrorism justifies all. (Keep that in mind going forward, by the way. You don't want "counter-" aimed at you, and let's hope it never is.) In Syria, counter-terrorism means at least 22 people died, according to local reports. The Pentagon says only one person died.

    Who were these people, in any case? Who was targeted? The Biden administration says it targeted two militia groups that are aligned with Iran. Members of those groups allegedly fired a rocket into Iraq that killed an American contractor. You may be wondering, "Why are there still American contractors in Iraq after almost two decades and no obvious return?" That's a good question. We'll address that some other time, because here's an even more amazing thing: Both of the militia the Biden administration hit are part of something called the Popular Mobilization Forces, a kind of umbrella group sponsored by the Iraqi government.

    Now, the Iraqi government itself is a creation of previous American administrations. So in other words, if you're following all this (and you have been for 18 years at this point), we are now defending Americans in Iraq from people we empowered in the first place to fix a disaster that was caused by our invasion. That's all counter-terrorism, got it? The snake eats its own tail.

    If all of this seems demented to you, rest easy.
    You should know it was Joe Biden who did it, not Donald Trump. Therefore, it's fine. In fact, it's good.

    This will make the Middle East a much better place, just like Hillary Clinton improved Libya.
    Now Libya has permanent war and slave markets and they're going to make you much safer in the process.

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    But when #TRE45ON bombed an empty airport it was okay.
    "Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Biden sent F-15s to kill people in Syria. No one in this country benefited from that, not even in the smallest, most theoretical way <snip>.
    It was self-defense and pay back for a Syrian rocket attack on a coalition military base.
    Conservatives do not believe in self defense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    But when #TRE45ON bombed an empty airport it was okay.
    When Trump did that, it was bad.

    Assad keeps that country together and it was largely Syrian army that defeated ISIS.

    I've seen video of them killing ISIS and rescuing people.

    As for the "He chemical-weaponed his own people", that's an AP outright lie.

    A Russian fighter jet blew up an ISIS-held chemical weapons depot is what really happened.

    Biden has no business messing with president Assad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    It was self-defense and pay back for a Syrian rocket attack on a coalition military base.
    Conservatives do not believe in self defense?
    It wasn't Syrians that did that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    It wasn't Syrians that did that.
    You put on a cheerleading skirt and picked up some pom-poms to cheerlead us into the foolish invasion of Iraq . And you have never expressed regret or confessed to your epic lack of judgement.

    You lost your right to comment on foreign policy in 2003.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Biden sent F-15s to kill people in Syria. No one in this country benefited from that, not even in the smallest, most theoretical way. That in itself was deeply reassuring to the political class in Washington. They consider any attempt to improve this country a terrifying form of nationalism. However, to those people, the idea of killing people in a faraway place is absolutely thrilling.

    The official word, in case you weren't tuned in to CNN and MSNBC, is that America killing strangers in Syria was not pointless. That comes straight from experts who believe that Saddam had bioweapons and started a war on the basis of it.

    Thursday's strike against Syria, they told us, was "counter-terrorism" and counter- terrorism justifies all. (Keep that in mind going forward, by the way. You don't want "counter-" aimed at you, and let's hope it never is.) In Syria, counter-terrorism means at least 22 people died, according to local reports. The Pentagon says only one person died.

    Who were these people, in any case? Who was targeted? The Biden administration says it targeted two militia groups that are aligned with Iran. Members of those groups allegedly fired a rocket into Iraq that killed an American contractor. You may be wondering, "Why are there still American contractors in Iraq after almost two decades and no obvious return?" That's a good question. We'll address that some other time, because here's an even more amazing thing: Both of the militia the Biden administration hit are part of something called the Popular Mobilization Forces, a kind of umbrella group sponsored by the Iraqi government.

    Now, the Iraqi government itself is a creation of previous American administrations. So in other words, if you're following all this (and you have been for 18 years at this point), we are now defending Americans in Iraq from people we empowered in the first place to fix a disaster that was caused by our invasion. That's all counter-terrorism, got it? The snake eats its own tail.

    If all of this seems demented to you, rest easy.
    You should know it was Joe Biden who did it, not Donald Trump. Therefore, it's fine. In fact, it's good.

    This will make the Middle East a much better place, just like Hillary Clinton improved Libya.
    Now Libya has permanent war and slave markets and they're going to make you much safer in the process.
    It's to benefit the MIC.
    The AP always trots out the "chemical weapons" bullshit to justify wtf ever they plan to do.

    Nobody found it odd that ol' Barry was hanging out with Ghaddafi a couple months before Hillary had him assassinated?

    Well, Ghaddafi was going to move The African Union to a Gold Standard vs. the petrodollars, and the globalists couldn't be having that.
    So the AP started running the propaganda "chemical weapons" cover and Hillary did their bidding.
    Libya is in constant turmoil to this day because of that.
    Hundreds of thousands of people affected in a very bad way.
    Ol' Barry was just hanging out with him and liked him, he didn't know the order was going to come down to kill him 2 months later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    You put on a cheerleading skirt and picked up some pom-poms to cheerlead us into the foolish invasion of Iraq . And you have never expressed regret or confessed to your epic lack of judgement.

    You lost your right to comment on foreign policy in 2003.
    No sir, I did not.
    A) Fuck you
    B) Fuck The Bushes
    C) You got it all kindsa fucked up, dumbass.
    D) You got it all kindsa wrong about me, boy.
    E) It wasn't Syrians that shot a rocket at a US-held air base.
    F) Joe Biden is a globalist puppet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    It was self-defense and pay back for a Syrian rocket attack on a coalition military base.
    Conservatives do not believe in self defense?
    you miss the point as well as the hypocrisy of Psaki and French ( see full story) condemning the Trump strike but backing Biden

    And WTF is this "Kurdish partners? are we supposed to be babysitting Kurds now?

    Trump was pulling us out of AfPak and Iraq, and Lord knows tried many times with Syria.

    Now Biden/Blinken are all cozy with neocons -one big happy war family. Perpetual war lives on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    It's to benefit the MIC.
    The AP always trots out the "chemical weapons" bullshit to justify wtf ever they plan to do.

    Nobody found it odd that ol' Barry was hanging out with Ghaddafi a couple months before Hillary had him assassinated?

    Well, Ghaddafi was going to move The African Union to a Gold Standard vs. the petrodollars, and the globalists couldn't be having that.
    So the AP started running the propaganda "chemical weapons" cover and Hillary did their bidding.
    Libya is in constant turmoil to this day because of that.
    Hundreds of thousands of people affected in a very bad way.
    Ol' Barry was just hanging out with him and liked him, he didn't know the order was going to come down to kill him 2 months later.
    ive heard that theory, and it might explain Sarkozy's motives
    ( BTW dd you see Sarkozy is going to jail? how's that for "karma")

    I think the Dems were influenced by Madeline Albright's "responsibility to protect" interventionism.
    whatever the motive as you point out -
    10 years ago we went to war on Libya and the place is still a basket case because of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    ive heard that theory, and it might explain Sarkozy's motives
    ( BTW dd you see Sarkozy is going to jail? how's that for "karma")

    I think the Dems were influenced by Madeline Albright's "responsibility to protect" interventionism.
    whatever the motive as you point out -
    10 years ago we went to war on Libya and the place is still a basket case because of it
    If Ghaddafi had lived, The African Union would be strong, and the value of the dollar would have been devalued 6%-15%.
    There would peace and prosperity in Libya today.
    Now it's a shithole with ISIS-type warlords all vying for power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    But when #TRE45ON bombed an empty airport it was okay.



    Can you not discuss a topic without whatabout trump garbage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    It was self-defense and pay back for a Syrian rocket attack on a coalition military base.
    Conservatives do not believe in self defense?



    Right, perhaps we should get out of these wars of choices both parties started and let muslim men fight muslim wars. you lefties used to hate wars of choice, now you are all chicken hawks. how does that work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    You put on a cheerleading skirt and picked up some pom-poms to cheerlead us into the foolish invasion of Iraq . And you have never expressed regret or confessed to your epic lack of judgement.

    You lost your right to comment on foreign policy in 2003.



    and here you are chickenhawk pom poms and cheerleading biden's escalation of a war of choice.

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