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    Many of the nation's current pathologies are taking a heavy toll on the majority-white population living in rural America, which was severely impacted by the opioid crisis and has dealt with falling populations, job losses and rising suicide rates.


    Letís say you were born, grew up and now reside in rural America. Throughout your life, you have been more susceptible to poverty, lower education, illness and even death than your urban counterparts.

    As a kid, chances are, you lived farther away from a doctor or hospital and got less exercise.
    You were more likely to live in a school desert ó having to travel long distances to make it to school, if you were able to attend at all. Your school might have shuttered, as school consolidation has become more common in many rural areas.

    You had a greater likelihood of getting your high school diploma than the national average, but were far less likely to go straight to college than your urban and suburban counterparts, as The Atlantic reported.
    If you did graduate with a college degree, you'd likely end up so saddled with student debt that returning to your rural hometown wouldn't be an option if you hoped to get a job that would enable you to pay it off, according to research by the Federal Reserve.

    Even if you stay, some of the brightest people you grew up with would leave, contributing to the rural "brain drain."
    As an adult, youíre more likely suffer from obesity, mental health issues, diabetes, cancer and opioid addiction. You are more likely to know people who took their own lives.
    If you keep working in your hometown, your job is more likely to be taken over by AI, according to a study by the Brookings Institution

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    The outlook: The 2020 census is likely to show the extent of this drastic trend. "Barring a significant reversal in the next few years," Richard Fry of the Pew Research Center tells Axios, "the share of the population living in rural counties will be less than it was in 2010 ... Rural clout in Congress and the electoral college will be diminished."

    By the numbers: Overall, non-metro areas increased in population between 2000 and 2015, but a majority of rural counties saw their populations dwindle, including 54% of rural counties in the Northeast and 68% of those in the Midwest, according to a study by Pew Research.
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    It's long been the case that young people tend to move out of more rural areas at a rate higher than people move in. A newer trend is that there are more people dying in many rural areas than being born.

    Aging community: The percentage of rural citizens who are 65+ is 4% higher than the national average, Frey says, which means these areas have fewer people of child-bearing age.
    Death rates: While death rates in metro areas for 18- to 64-year-olds have been declining, these working-age deaths have been on the rise in more rural areas, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
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    2016 was a "demographic anomaly," according to Frey, who says the rural areas that voted for Trump are not likely to have as much impact on future elections. Instead, "it will be demographic subgroups like racial minorities and women who will be more likely to sway things."
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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    Many of the nation's current pathologies are taking a heavy toll on the majority-white population living in rural America, which was severely impacted by the opioid crisis and has dealt with falling populations, job losses and rising suicide rates.


    Let’s say you were born, grew up and now reside in rural America. Throughout your life, you have been more susceptible to poverty, lower education, illness and even death than your urban counterparts.

    As a kid, chances are, you lived farther away from a doctor or hospital and got less exercise.
    You were more likely to live in a school desert — having to travel long distances to make it to school, if you were able to attend at all. Your school might have shuttered, as school consolidation has become more common in many rural areas.

    You had a greater likelihood of getting your high school diploma than the national average, but were far less likely to go straight to college than your urban and suburban counterparts, as The Atlantic reported.
    If you did graduate with a college degree, you'd likely end up so saddled with student debt that returning to your rural hometown wouldn't be an option if you hoped to get a job that would enable you to pay it off, according to research by the Federal Reserve.

    Even if you stay, some of the brightest people you grew up with would leave, contributing to the rural "brain drain."
    As an adult, you’re more likely suffer from obesity, mental health issues, diabetes, cancer and opioid addiction. You are more likely to know people who took their own lives.
    If you keep working in your hometown, your job is more likely to be taken over by AI, according to a study by the Brookings Institution

    https://www.axios.com/the-rural-amer...b8bf76faa.html
    Rual america is fine . o by the way to raciest scum back rual America feeds you. Where do you think the grain to make bread comes from or the beef pork and chicken you eat.

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    Rual america is fine . o by the way to raciest scum back rual America feeds you. Where do you think the grain to make bread comes from or the beef pork and chicken you eat.
    He refuses to gobble pork, in fact he had to marry a shiksa just to get a BJ!
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    As a coastal person, I'd rather take two shots behind the ear than have to live in rural middle America.
    I never had either the opportunity or the inclination to cultivate the qualities that allow one to do so.
    You can get a decent steak there, but if you want good Chinese or Italian, you're SOL.

    Just the same, even as they piss us off with their stupid votes, these middle Americans do contribute to producing our food.

    I don't want dissolve all relations with them, and I'm not unappreciative of their work.
    I just wish that the food we buy from them comprised imports from a different nation rather than domestic production.
    Then we could get along peacefully instead of wanting to kill one another over politics.
    And let's be honest--the latter IS what we want to do now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    Many of the nation's current pathologies are taking a heavy toll on the majority-white population living in rural America, which was severely impacted by the opioid crisis and has dealt with falling populations, job losses and rising suicide rates.


    Let’s say you were born, grew up and now reside in rural America. Throughout your life, you have been more susceptible to poverty, lower education, illness and even death than your urban counterparts.

    As a kid, chances are, you lived farther away from a doctor or hospital and got less exercise.
    You were more likely to live in a school desert — having to travel long distances to make it to school, if you were able to attend at all. Your school might have shuttered, as school consolidation has become more common in many rural areas.

    You had a greater likelihood of getting your high school diploma than the national average, but were far less likely to go straight to college than your urban and suburban counterparts, as The Atlantic reported.
    If you did graduate with a college degree, you'd likely end up so saddled with student debt that returning to your rural hometown wouldn't be an option if you hoped to get a job that would enable you to pay it off, according to research by the Federal Reserve.

    Even if you stay, some of the brightest people you grew up with would leave, contributing to the rural "brain drain."
    As an adult, you’re more likely suffer from obesity, mental health issues, diabetes, cancer and opioid addiction. You are more likely to know people who took their own lives.
    If you keep working in your hometown, your job is more likely to be taken over by AI, according to a study by the Brookings Institution

    https://www.axios.com/the-rural-amer...b8bf76faa.html
    Interesting.

    And more likely to have a chip on your shoulder with that feeling that the rest of the world has things you don't, and has passed you by.

    Also a big factor: family farms are going by the wayside. Agriculture is experiencing the same reduction of workforce and needed workers as manufacturing.

    Fewer jobs always have a deteriorating effect on a local community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    To be expected from a poorly educated rural hick rube who lives in drive thru country
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    As a coastal person, I'd rather take two shots behind the ear than have to live in rural middle America.
    I never had either the opportunity or the inclination to cultivate the qualities that allow one to do so.
    You can get a decent steak there, but if you want good Chinese or Italian, you're SOL.

    Just the same, even as they piss us off with their stupid votes, these middle Americans do contribute to producing our food.

    I don't want dissolve all relations with them, and I'm not unappreciative of their work.
    I just wish that the food we buy from them comprised imports from a different nation rather than domestic production.
    Then we could get along peacefully instead of wanting to kill one another over politics.
    And let's be honest--the latter IS what we want to do now.


    Your mindset is that of the biggest racist this place has ever seen.

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    America’s rural areas are doomed to decline

    The facts are clear and unarguable. Most of the nation’s smaller urban and rural counties are not growing and will not grow.

    Nationally, 71% of all metropolitan counties grew between 2008 and 2017, but more than half of the remaining micropolitan and rural counties did not grow or shrank in population.

    69 of Iowa’s 99 counties have contracted since 2010, along with 10 of its 15 micropolitan counties. This ongoing struggle of midsized counties has negative economic and social consequences. Residents in surrounding rural areas depend on them for jobs, essential services, public goods and other commercial and recreational amenities.

    There is, in short, a regional ripple effect. When micropolitan counties falter, neighboring rural counties that depend on them often falter, too. This is true in Iowa and evident as well across much of the U.S.

    Of late, manufacturing and technology firms claim that the woes of small urban and rural areas are due to skills gaps – that distressed economies could grow and their populations could stabilize if more people acquired more technical skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    Many of the nation's current pathologies are taking a heavy toll on the majority-white population living in rural America, which was severely impacted by the opioid crisis and has dealt with falling populations, job losses and rising suicide rates.


    Let’s say you were born, grew up and now reside in rural America. Throughout your life, you have been more susceptible to poverty, lower education, illness and even death than your urban counterparts.

    As a kid, chances are, you lived farther away from a doctor or hospital and got less exercise.
    You were more likely to live in a school desert — having to travel long distances to make it to school, if you were able to attend at all. Your school might have shuttered, as school consolidation has become more common in many rural areas.

    You had a greater likelihood of getting your high school diploma than the national average, but were far less likely to go straight to college than your urban and suburban counterparts, as The Atlantic reported.
    If you did graduate with a college degree, you'd likely end up so saddled with student debt that returning to your rural hometown wouldn't be an option if you hoped to get a job that would enable you to pay it off, according to research by the Federal Reserve.

    Even if you stay, some of the brightest people you grew up with would leave, contributing to the rural "brain drain."
    As an adult, you’re more likely suffer from obesity, mental health issues, diabetes, cancer and opioid addiction. You are more likely to know people who took their own lives.
    If you keep working in your hometown, your job is more likely to be taken over by AI, according to a study by the Brookings Institution

    https://www.axios.com/the-rural-amer...b8bf76faa.html
    There are other factors as well. The loss of manufacturing jobs is huge. Many never had to go to college as there might have been a G.E plant in town. That was the plan from childhood, just as generations before.

    Likewise for the hospitality industry. Once thriving tourist locations like the Borscht Belt are long dead, with no opportunities for locals. During the heyday, one would finish high school and make great money working a variety of jobs at the myriad hotels.

    All gone.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    The outlook: The 2020 census is likely to show the extent of this drastic trend. "Barring a significant reversal in the next few years," Richard Fry of the Pew Research Center tells Axios, "the share of the population living in rural counties will be less than it was in 2010 ... Rural clout in Congress and the electoral college will be diminished."

    By the numbers: Overall, non-metro areas increased in population between 2000 and 2015, but a majority of rural counties saw their populations dwindle, including 54% of rural counties in the Northeast and 68% of those in the Midwest, according to a study by Pew Research.
    The piece is a little outdated, being pre Covid. In fact, NYC is dead and there is a real estate boom as far north as 100 miles from the city. Everyone is fleeing to the safety of rural America, saving tens of thousands/year on rent.

    I think we're going to see large corporations leave the huge buildings and have staff work from home. The savings are astronomical. Covid accidentally showed them a new business model.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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