Biden to sign executive order targeting America's supply chains

[Into the Night]

Not unfortunate at all, because I'm right. Slavery was not the sole purpose the South wanted to leave the Union.

Correct. While slavery was one factor, there were several reasons.

Slaves are property...bought and paid for. The federal government wanted to seize the property of the slave owners and not compensate them for it. This violates the 4th amendment. It didn't matter that slavery itself is theft of wealth. The most abusive slave owners tended to be Democrats.

Slavery at the time was an accepted part of life. To judge it on today's values is a fallacy, known as a Presentism fallacy.

Other reasons were tariffs laid against southern States that the Northern State did not have to pay, simply because they were not as agrarian oriented as the South was. The South did not have the industrial goods like the North had. Dependence on slavery became their own undoing.

Slavery was already beginning to fade before the War broke out. Given time, it probably would have simply faded away on its own, at least in most cases.
Of course, now the Democrats want to make slaves of the American people.

[Lightbringer]

From my link above:

"Because manufactured goods were not produced in the South, they had to either be imported or shipped down from the North. Either way, a large expense, be it shipping fees or the federal tariff, was added to the price of manufactured goods only for Southerners. Because importation was often cheaper than shipping from the North, the South paid most of the federal tariffs."

No one says Congress imposed tariffs on itself.

Explain that.

[RB 60]

Explain that.

The sentence following your quote in red from my quote above.

[Into the Night]

We were talking about tariffs. Congress did not impose tariffs on itself. What you were talking about...the North tariffing the South...didn't happen.

Actually, it did...kinda.

The tariff was placed on British imports. 37% on some imported goods and 45% on imported raw materials. This led to Britain slapping a tariff on raw materials the South was exporting to Britain, placing the Southern States in a real financial bind. Cheap pitch and tar, sugar, and cotton was no longer viable to export to Britain. These were the southern industries at the time.

[Lightbringer]

Actually, it did...kinda.

The tariff was placed on British imports. 37% on some imported goods and 45% on imported raw materials. This led to Britain slapping a tariff on raw materials the South was exporting to Britain, placing the Southern States in a real financial bind. Cheap pitch and tar, sugar, and cotton was no longer viable to export to Britain. These were the southern industries at the time.

Either that or the South got a protected market.

[Jack]

It's well known why there is a shortage of semiconductor chips, but no doubt SloJo will set up a committee which will take two years to report and cost many millions in the process!

https://www.cityam.com/whats-causing...nductor-chips/

It's probably geared more to getting Taiwan Semi-Conductor to locate a Plant here in the US. (But, you probably already know this)


"Taiwan Semiconductor
Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company, Limited, is the world's largest dedicated independent semiconductor foundry, with its headquarters and main operations located in the Hsinchu Science and Industrial Park in Hsinchu, Taiwan.Wikipedia"

[Jack]

This makes me so happy.

Yeah. Me too. Americans for America.

[Jack]

There is no chip shortage.

There is no chip shortage.

The US imports almost no chips from China. Most are made in Taiwan, Japan, and Mexico.

You should change your handle from 'Into the Night' to 'I'm a Space Cadet'.


"Worldwide chip shortage expected to last into next year ..."
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/wo...ks-11614020156

[Minister of Truth]

It is NOT a lie. If you only take one individual's assessment of the situation and dismiss all others, you are narrow minded.

It wasn't so much foreign competition or tariffs, but rather tariffs the North imposed on the South's agricultural products. No doubt, slavery was a big part of the South's agriculture, which is why they opposed eliminating it. But slavery alone was not the sole reason the South wanted to leave the Union.

It was the sole argument of the CSA founding fathers. To contradict them in order to advance a false narrative is a lie.

[floridafan]

That's coming again, thanks to Biden.

Only in your dreams.

[Into the Night]

Either that or the South got a protected market.

Not really. They got started on these markets when under British rule.

[Into the Night]

It's probably geared more to getting Taiwan Semi-Conductor to locate a Plant here in the US. (But, you probably already know this)


"Taiwan Semiconductor
Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company, Limited, is the world's largest dedicated independent semiconductor foundry, with its headquarters and main operations located in the Hsinchu Science and Industrial Park in Hsinchu, Taiwan.Wikipedia"

Why would they want to locate to the US? There is no expertise here, and our eco laws are what drove our electronics industry offshore several decades ago.

[Into the Night]

[QUOTE=Jack;4266430]You should change your handle from 'Into the Night' to 'I'm a Space Cadet'.


"Worldwide chip shortage expected to last into next year ..."
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/wo...ks-11614020156
...deleted Holy Link...
There is no chip shortage. Intel fucked up. That's all. It's certainly not their first time, nor will it be the last.

[Into the Night]

It was the sole argument of the CSA founding fathers. To contradict them in order to advance a false narrative is a lie.

No, it wasn't the sole argument of the CSA States.

[Jack]

Why would they want to locate to the US? There is no expertise here, and our eco laws are what drove our electronics industry offshore several decades ago.

'They' may not want to ... 'We' are the ones that will have to 'incentivize' them.