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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I wonder if the Latino immigrants will be the New Economic Slaves?
    Latinos are doing just fine.
    they dont sit around and whine about it -they work hard and get ahead -the American way.

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    His comment about affirmative action is interesting from this perspective. California had a ballot measure, Prop 16, in 2020 to reinstitute AA. Stating the obvious, California was the leader of the 'resistance'. This is a state Biden won by some 30%. Yet the ballot measure didn't pass. And it wasn't all that close. In a state that Democrats dominate and white people make up only half the population.

    I know A.A. is only a part of a potential reparations package but if its not going to fly in Cali, it could potentially make for a tough sell elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    Latinos are doing just fine.
    they dont sit around and whine about it -they work hard and get ahead -the American way.
    It could be viewed as another form of 'White Oppression'.

    You bring in 'Illegals'. That compete for Low Wage Jobs, affecting Black Workers more than White Workers, and pit them against one another. In the end, the Beneficiaries are the Ownership Class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    His comment about affirmative action is interesting from this perspective. California had a ballot measure, Prop 16, in 2020 to reinstitute AA. Stating the obvious, California was the leader of the 'resistance'. This is a state Biden won by some 30%. Yet the ballot measure didn't pass. And it wasn't all that close. In a state that Democrats dominate and white people make up only half the population.

    I know A.A. is only a part of a potential reparations package but if its not going to fly in Cali, it could potentially make for a tough sell elsewhere.
    How many Asians are on board with 'Reparations'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Obama left office with a 60 percent approval rating, is widely acknowledged as a consequential and important president -- and he is so popular voters decided to give him a third term, in effect and by proxy, by electing his vice president to the oval office.

    The wealth of this nation was built in large part on the backs of slaves and the confiscation of lands from indigenous people. We might as well be honest about it. I do not know what the proper response is, but since institutional bigotry still exists 150 after the civil war ended, it is probably worth a sober discussion
    lets talk

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    We have already used Affirmative Action
    Really? How so? Take me through how "we used it"...

    Try to cite parts of the legislation to support your case.
    When I die, turn me into a brick and use me to cave in the skull of a fascist


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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    His comment about affirmative action is interesting from this perspective. California had a ballot measure, Prop 16, in 2020 to reinstitute AA. Stating the obvious, California was the leader of the 'resistance'. This is a state Biden won by some 30%. Yet the ballot measure didn't pass. And it wasn't all that close. In a state that Democrats dominate and white people make up only half the population.

    I know A.A. is only a part of a potential reparations package but if its not going to fly in Cali, it could potentially make for a tough sell elsewhere.
    CA is dominated by racist whites............................only ignorant ill informredracist white men think otherwise

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    How many Asians are on board with 'Reparations'?
    STFU

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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Really? How so? Take me through how "we used it"...

    Try to cite parts of the legislation to support your case.
    they used it on White women like carly feriona

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Yeah. Sure. But Obama wore a tan suit. You easily left THAT out.
    Personally I liked to see Obama in that tan suit.

    SO much hatred for Obama and it was all just pure WHITE SUPREMACIST HATRED OF ALL BLACK PEOPLE!

    It didn't matter whether it was Obama or any other Black man, it was just pure WHITE hatred expressed towards the BLACK MAN IN GENERAL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    i been saying this on this board for years
    but 'politics of White resistance' made it 'nonstarter' to propose

    white america will never go for it................................................ ..............
    you mean white reactionaries?

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    I am a progressive liberal who honestly doesn't get the reparations thing.
    I understand and believe that our African American citizens have been wronged and in many instances continue to be wronged, but there's no possible way to justly arrange for reparations.
    We should focus our energy on fixing what's wrong and spend our money on strengthening the social safety net for everybody.
    I favor the color blind approach to the affirmative action approach, because that's where we should have started before we started importing slaves.
    Slavery isn't a wrong that can be corrected in less than a millennium. The sin is too great. The resentment is too justified. It can't be scraped off. It must wear away in the environment of better conditions, and that takes time.

    The people who yell the loudest against reparations, ironically, are also among the people that I loathe the most.
    So as with most things on this pigshit planet, there's no really good answer.

    I vehemently disagree with TTQ64 as I'm adamantly opposed to doing away with ANY unions.
    We can't make a special exception for police.
    Unions are what protect workers from exploitation.
    They're a shield, not a sword, with the latter only occurring with badly negotiated contracts.
    I have a degree in labor relations. I know how this shit goes down.
    The employer gives away shit that's cheap to give away, even if it's unjustified or wrong, in exchange for more expensive demands that should have been met.
    That's one reason I favor socialized medicine. Take healthcare out of labor negotiations. That's what civilized nations do.

    I would change the wording from Death Penalty to Expedient Civil Exclusion but use it more often, not less.
    A prison sentence of longer than, say three years, is less humane than life termination.
    If somewhat can't be rehabbed in three years they should be humanely euthanized.
    They're crazy, so we shouldn't punitively execute people for being sick, but we can humanely execute them as
    we would a terminally sick pet. It's just the right thing to do, and it isn't horrific torture like the present lethal injection procedure used in prisons.

    There's no progressive on this forum who gets called a racist more than I do, even though it's the last thing that I'd want to be,
    so I'll probably get it from both sides as to this post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    STFU
    How many Latinos?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
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    OF course you disagree with me.....................thats the point President Obama was making

    WHITE AMERICA DOESNT WANT EQUALITY

    yOURE THE PROBLEM!

    if you cant see my color.................................youre the problem

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