Reply With QuoteTrue/Not True is the only thing that matters.Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle
Take your labels and shove them.
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Are you denying you've been screaming that the crash was a conspiracy to hide the fact Tiger was DUI with ambien or some such bullshit?
"Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"
ButterMilk Man
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True/Not True is the only thing that matters.
Take your labels and shove them.
I choose my own words like the Americans of olden times........before this dystopia arrived.
DARK AGES SUCK!
ButterMilk Man
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The label makers are almost always liars this deeply into this dark age, I dont pay them any attention anymore.
I choose my own words like the Americans of olden times........before this dystopia arrived.
DARK AGES SUCK!
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You're the one making labels, dumbass:Not only are you a liar, you are claiming credit for your lie.
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Dutch Uncle,
Certainly saves more lives than are taken.
And for those who think an occupant is better off without an airbag, because race car drivers don't use them, and are thus tempted to disable their own, I certainly hope they always wear a helmet and only travel in the same direction as all the other traffic, with no cross traffic intersections ever encountered...
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Doc Dutch (03-07-2021)
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Race car drivers, like pilots, have five-point harnesses. Drivers also have helmets and neck braces.
IMO it's foolish to disable a functioning safety device.
PoliTalker (03-08-2021)
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Oh good,I won't sign the check that was going in the mail.
Tie Your 'roo down Mate
ButterMilk Man
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People are now so ill formed that they dont know where one person ends and the next begins.
Our ancestors almost all did much better.
I choose my own words like the Americans of olden times........before this dystopia arrived.
DARK AGES SUCK!
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Dutch Uncle,
Of course it is.
Yes, they have had failures; but the odds are still heavily in favor of their success rate.
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Doc Dutch (03-08-2021)
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Auto safety systems have an excellent safety record (see Ralph Nader). It's people who tamper with them or inadvertently damage them during home repairs who more often see failures.
A common example is the person who doesn't like the shoulder strap on their neck so they put it under their arm thereby defeating its function. Better to use a hand towel or shoulder harness pad.
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Nostalgia is 20/20.
Sorry, dude, but no, they didn't. They fumbled around just like we do now. The world was simpler then but still deadly. Read a detailed history from the end of WWI until the US nuked Japan. It's very illuminating on this particular topic.
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Dutch Uncle,
Safety and comfort are at odds with one another.
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Doc Dutch (03-08-2021)
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Not necessary. The One-Size-Fits-All approach to seatbelts is a problem especially for short/younger people and women, who often don't wear collared shirts and, therefore, the belt rubs on bare skin. There are accessories of alleviate these problems.
Having started flying when I was 20, I became quickly accustomed to wearing my seat belt and feel uncomfortable without it. When flying professionally, we're only required to wear the shoulder harness portion of our 5-point seat belt during taxi, takeoff and landing. Over 90% of pilots release their shoulder harness on climbout. Mostly out of comfort, but also to keep their shirts clean (white shirt, dirty black seat belt straps).
I know of one fatality due to a person not wearing his shoulder harness in an otherwise survivable crash. I also know where a captain was severely injured because he wasn't wearing his shoulder harness per regulations upon landing...which he fucked up and ended in the weeds.
I always wore my full harness unless I couldn't such as leaving to pee, opening the door, etc.
PoliTalker (03-08-2021)
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Hello Dutch Uncle,
It has been determined that auto shoulder harness and seat belt combo is safer if constantly pulled taut. A spring retraction device continually pulls at it to accomplish this goal. That makes them uncomfortable.
I now refuse to drive any more than one hour at a time. Even if I am not feeling any particular discomfort, I will stop and take a break at least every hour if driving long distance. And that's actually a good thing. The human body needs to be in constant motion. Sitting still too long as bad for us.
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Doc Dutch (03-08-2021)
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Inertia reels are good at keeping the shoulder harness taut. If it's flawed, it should be repaired. Usually just cleaning and a little silicon greaseless spray.
A break every hour is a common recommendation. I'm not a fan of driving long distances, but have done so out of necessity. Audio books help along with breaks, even a quick leg stretch and back on the road. Up to last year, I had to make a 3 hour drive once a month (6 hours total). I usually took a break halfway. People should do what's safe and comfortable for themselves and their passengers.
PoliTalker (03-08-2021)
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