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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    Why are you saying that like we don't already have uncontrolled immigration.........
    ... and why is "climate refugee" immigration a problem, but our current uncontrolled illegal immigration isn't a problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    ... and why is "climate refugee" immigration a problem, but our current uncontrolled illegal immigration isn't a problem?
    Truth Detector claims if we just change the name and make them 'legal immigrants', the problem is solved. (keep in mind, this is another Truth Detector 'brain farts' he's known for)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Well, it's an opinion. What's yours? Unlimited Immigration?
    There you go again, being a dishonest dumbass.

    For starters, I would KEEP all the programs initiated by Trump. Then I would finish the Border wall to help eliminate ILLEGAL entry on our Southern Border.

    I would revise the immigration portal and website to identify ALL legal green card holders with a PHOTO ID so that employers can easily identify who is here working LEGALLY. When their Visas expire, it would "red flag" them in the system. In addition, anyone "red flagged" still using their SS number could be traced down and deported. Anyone violating our laws would never be allowed re-entry.

    Then, I would force sanctuary states to comply with Federal immigration laws by cutting a=off ALL Federal funding and aid. If states want to thumb their nose at Federal immigration laws, they do not need Federal subsidies.

    That's a start at least. What's yours?
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    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Truth Detector claims if we just change the name and make them 'legal immigrants', the problem is solved. (keep in mind, this is another Truth Detector 'brain farts' he's known for)
    There you go again JackOFF; lying your dumb ass off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    There you go again, being a dishonest dumbass.

    For starters, I would KEEP all the programs initiated by Trump. Then I would finish the Border wall to help eliminate ILLEGAL entry on our Southern Border.

    I would revise the immigration portal and website to identify ALL legal green card holders with a PHOTO ID so that employers can easily identify who is here working LEGALLY. When their Visas expire, it would "red flag" them in the system. In addition, anyone "red flagged" still using their SS number could be traced down and deported. Anyone violating our laws would never be allowed re-entry.

    Then, I would force sanctuary states to comply with Federal immigration laws by cutting a=off ALL Federal funding and aid. If states want to thumb their nose at Federal immigration laws, they do not need Federal subsidies.

    That's a start at least. What's yours?

    Legalize everyone that is here NOW. Give them an SS number.
    Put out the 'No Vacancy' sign, and have a Policy of 'No immigration'.
    (I would imagine exceptions could be made)

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    Hello Jack,

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I know my opinion is unpopular. But, speaking as an American, and viewing 'America' as my family, I support pragmatic solutions.
    THE (rather obvious) pragmatic solution is to get control of Climate Change.
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    Hello Jack,

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    Poli. If you had a Home, and a Family, how many 'permenent guests' could you afford? How much room would you feel you needed? How many would bust your Budget? When would you feel the Quality of Life you wanted to afford your Family was gone? Is there a 'Limit'?
    We humans live on a planet. This planet is our home. We have to think larger than just our country. We already have too many humans on this planet. The long term solution is to limit childbirth to no more than 2 per couple.
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    Hello Jack,

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Yes. They aren't going to wait until the water is up to their chest to leave. They are leaving NOW.
    At least the smart ones are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Jack,



    THE (rather obvious) pragmatic solution is to get control of Climate Change.
    Yes. I agree. Biden has rejoined the Paris Accord. We are on the right track again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Jack,



    We humans live on a planet. This planet is our home. We have to think larger than just our country. We already have too many humans on this planet. The long term solution is to limit childbirth to no more than 2 per couple.
    True.
    We can only control what happens in OUR country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Jack,



    We humans live on a planet. This planet is our home. We have to think larger than just our country. We already have too many humans on this planet. The long term solution is to limit childbirth to no more than 2 per couple.
    No we don't. We aren't obligated in the least to help anyone unless we choose to do so. If those that are losers or whatever want to come here and we don't want them, then they can't come and we should stop them by all means necessary within reason.

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    Hello Jack,

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    True.
    We can only control what happens in OUR country.
    True and not true. Being the most powerful country in the world, we actually have considerable sway over what happens in other countries. Especially when it is a matter which affects everyone.

    It's almost the case that we have more control over what happens in some other countries than we have over our own extreme right wing in America.
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    Hello T. A. Gardner,

    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    No we don't. We aren't obligated in the least to help anyone unless we choose to do so. If those that are losers or whatever want to come here and we don't want them, then they can't come and we should stop them by all means necessary within reason.
    I would consider that view to be rather shortsighted.

    Particularly when speaking of the issue of world over-population.

    Sort of like pretending that there is nothing beyond our borders; but we know there actually is quite a lot. And it affects us, being on the same planet and all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Jack,



    True and not true. Being the most powerful country in the world, we actually have considerable sway over what happens in other countries. Especially when it is a matter which affects everyone.

    It's almost the case that we have more control over what happens in some other countries than we have over our own extreme right wing in America.
    Sure. If you say so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello T. A. Gardner,



    I would consider that view to be rather shortsighted.

    Particularly when speaking of the issue of world over-population.

    Sort of like pretending that there is nothing beyond our borders; but we know there actually is quite a lot. And it affects us, being on the same planet and all.
    The US isn't "over populated." So, why is that an issue for the US?

    What happens in some Third World shithole is their problem.

    Here, let's follow the "science."


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