Half a million dead......some hoax Rs

[evince]

So is it still a democrat hoax


Or will you now admit trump fooled you?

[redfish]

Died when? In 2020? Not likely. Probably not for a few years.

we have no way of knowing that, and that is the exact reason why the covid numbers cannot be believed.

[redfish]

I mean you lied about COVID, you still call it a hoax, and you are trying to convince everyone you discovered this board in November 2020.

ok, lets get this straight. NO ONE has ever said that covid (the virus) was a hoax. what was said and what remains true today, is that the reaction to the virus was a hoax. shutting down our economy and putting millions out of work was never justified by a virus with a 99.7% survival rate. That, my liberal friend, is/was the hoax.

[domer76]

we have no way of knowing that, and that is the exact reason why the covid numbers cannot be believed.

Educate yourself, if you can, you fucking dimwit.

COVID FACTS

The underlying cause of death is the condition that began the chain of events that ultimately led to the person’s death,” Dr. Robert Anderson, who oversees the CDC’s death statistics work, said in a statement. “In 92% of all deaths that mention COVID-19, COVID-19 is listed as the underlying cause of death.”

https://www.jems.com/coronavirus/no-...9-death-count/

Co-morbidity deaths tables

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...#Comorbidities


Excess deaths table

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...ess_deaths.htm

Excess mortality

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...eath-toll.html

https://www.economist.com/graphic-de...deaths-tracker

https://www.statnews.com/2020/08/03/...s-true-burden/

https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid

https://www.census.gov/library/stori...eath-toll.html

Understanding the total death toll of the current pandemic requires measuring what’s called “excess all-cause mortality,” which provides an estimate of the additional number of deaths from any cause — not just from COVID-19 infections — beyond what is normally expected during a given period.

This measure includes people who died from COVID-19 and people who died for other reasons related to the pandemic.

https://www.census.gov/library/stori...eath-toll.html

[redfish]

Educate yourself, if you can, you fucking dimwit.

COVID FACTS

The underlying cause of death is the condition that began the chain of events that ultimately led to the person’s death,” Dr. Robert Anderson, who oversees the CDC’s death statistics work, said in a statement. “In 92% of all deaths that mention COVID-19, COVID-19 is listed as the underlying cause of death.”

https://www.jems.com/coronavirus/no-...9-death-count/

Co-morbidity deaths tables

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...#Comorbidities


Excess deaths table

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...ess_deaths.htm

Excess mortality

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...eath-toll.html

https://www.economist.com/graphic-de...deaths-tracker

https://www.statnews.com/2020/08/03/...s-true-burden/

https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid

https://www.census.gov/library/stori...eath-toll.html

Understanding the total death toll of the current pandemic requires measuring what’s called “excess all-cause mortality,” which provides an estimate of the additional number of deaths from any cause — not just from COVID-19 infections — beyond what is normally expected during a given period.

This measure includes people who died from COVID-19 and people who died for other reasons related to the pandemic.

https://www.census.gov/library/stori...eath-toll.html

Right, and we are supposed to believe the CDC and WHO, and little Tony Fauci? They have been lying to us for a year over this bullshit. If someone has terminal cancer and then catches covid, and then dies, there is no doctor in the world who could prove that covid killed him and that the cancer did not. You need to understand, its about money, a covid death pays the hospital more than a cancer death.

Its amazing how gullible and naive you libs are.

[Iolo/Penderyn]

Right, and we are supposed to believe the CDC and WHO, and little Tony Fauci? They have been lying to us for a year over this bullshit. If someone has terminal cancer and then catches covid, and then dies, there is no doctor in the world who could prove that covid killed him and that the cancer did not. You need to understand, its about money, a covid death pays the hospital more than a cancer death.

Its amazing how gullible and naive you libs are.

You weirdoes with your senseless assertions. Your Fuhrer killed half a million Americans, kid - Hitler never did as well!

[LV426]

ok, lets get this straight. NO ONE has ever said that covid (the virus) was a hoax.

Yes you did. Y'all did. Over and over. Repeatedly. That was accompanied by downplaying it by saying it was no worse than the flu. You also said that 15 cases would be down to zero, and that it would disappear by the Spring.

So you can probably understand that it's difficult for anyone to take what you say about COVID seriously today, because of what you said about it before.

what was said and what remains true today, is that the reaction to the virus was a hoax.

500,000+ dead doesn't seem like an overreaction on our part.

You downplayed the virus, and you're still downplaying the virus.

Those lies are why Trump lost. Your lack of self-control is the reason Biden is President today.

shutting down our economy and putting millions out of work was never justified by a virus with a 99.7% survival rate.

I have some really fucking bad news for you...the economy was already in a recession by the time any lockdowns were imposed.

Consumers aren't going to go out and spend money if they don't feel safe, and lying about the virus, or downplaying it as 500K died and/or as we lose 1K-4K a day doesn't make anyone feel safe.

neTver justified by a virus with a 99.7% survival rate.

Many states didn't lock down at all, and some of those who did barely locked anything down.

The economy was already in the shitter by the time COVID started, and had been in the shitter for a while, so blaming the lockdowns for killing businesses is bullshit, because your recession would have killed those businesses anyway.

[redfish]

You weirdoes with your senseless assertions. Your Fuhrer killed half a million Americans, kid - Hitler never did as well!

LOL, you idiot. using your "logic" China killed 500K americans. But lets pursue your stupidity a little further. You claim Trump killed all the americans who are coded as covid deaths. Tell us exactly how he did that and exactly what Hillary or senile Joe would have done differently to prevent those deaths.

Also, using yoiur "logic" obama is responsible for the 50-60 K per year of flu deaths during his reign. the ignorance of you hateful libs knows no bounds.

[redfish]

Yes you did. Y'all did. Over and over. Repeatedly. That was accompanied by downplaying it by saying it was no worse than the flu. You also said that 15 cases would be down to zero, and that it would disappear by the Spring.

So you can probably understand that it's difficult for anyone to take what you say about COVID seriously today, because of what you said about it before.




500,000+ dead doesn't seem like an overreaction on our part.

You downplayed the virus, and you're still downplaying the virus.

Those lies are why Trump lost. Your lack of self-control is the reason Biden is President today.




I have some really fucking bad news for you...the economy was already in a recession by the time any lockdowns were imposed.

Consumers aren't going to go out and spend money if they don't feel safe, and lying about the virus, or downplaying it as 500K died and/or as we lose 1K-4K a day doesn't make anyone feel safe.




Many states didn't lock down at all, and some of those who did barely locked anything down.

The economy was already in the shitter by the time COVID started, and had been in the shitter for a while, so blaming the lockdowns for killing businesses is bullshit, because your recession would have killed those businesses anyway.

no, neither Trump or any conservative ever said the virus was a hoax. NO ONE!

The economy was booming when China sent the virus, where do you get your lies?

At one point most states were shut down, the ones that did not, had no greater % of covid cases than the ones who shut down.

[domer76]

Right, and we are supposed to believe the CDC and WHO, and little Tony Fauci? They have been lying to us for a year over this bullshit. If someone has terminal cancer and then catches covid, and then dies, there is no doctor in the world who could prove that covid killed him and that the cancer did not. You need to understand, its about money, a covid death pays the hospital more than a cancer death.

Its amazing how gullible and naive you libs are.

Stupid and ignorance of your level is unfixable.

Stick with QAnon, tardboy.

[LV426]

no, neither Trump or any conservative ever said the virus was a hoax. NO ONE!

Yes you did. You all did. You all called it a hoax, you said it was no worse than the flu, you said the cases were being inflated, then you said the cases were being hidden...I mean, really...just stop.

The economy was booming when China sent the virus, where do you get your lies?

Manufacturing had been in a recession for a year before COVID hit.

The economy entered a recession in FEBRUARY 2020, and the lockdowns weren't until Mid-March.

So is time not linear in Conservatardia?

[LV426]

At one point most states were shut down

Not really, no.

And the shutdowns are only going to be as effective as the least shutdown state.

So that's how you took 15 cases all the way down to 25 million.

the ones that did not, had no greater % of covid cases than the ones who shut down.

North Dakota and South Dakota currently have the #1 and #3 highest infection rates in the world.

[redfish]

Not really, no.

And the shutdowns are only going to be as effective as the least shutdown state.

So that's how you took 15 cases all the way down to 25 million.




North Dakota and South Dakota currently have the #1 and #3 highest infection rates in the world.

the covid is coming, run run run, run for the hills, the evil covid is coming to kill us all!!!!!!!!! Run into the arms of senile Joe, He will save you!!!!!!!! fricken morons.

[redfish]

Yes you did. You all did. You all called it a hoax, you said it was no worse than the flu, you said the cases were being inflated, then you said the cases were being hidden...I mean, really...just stop.




Manufacturing had been in a recession for a year before COVID hit.

The economy entered a recession in FEBRUARY 2020, and the lockdowns weren't until Mid-March.

So is time not linear in Conservatardia?

nothing in your post is true, get your head back up Pelosi's dress and shut up.

[LV426]

the covid is coming, run run run, run for the hills, the evil covid is coming to kill us all!!!!!!!!! Run into the arms of senile Joe, He will save you!!!!!!!! fricken morons.

This is you calling COVID a hoax, just so we're clear on what you're doing here.

Had you not lied about COVID, not downplayed it, not compared it to the flu, Trump probably would be President today.

Your lack of self-control cost you the Presidency and the Senate.