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[LV426]

U.S.What Is Affirmative Action and Is It Discrimination Against White People? Here's What You Need to Know

So this IS NOT an example of a qualified white person losing out on a job because of quotas.

And you left out the part where SCOTUS said that race can be used as one criterion when it comes to college admissions.

This case had nothing to do with hiring, which is what we have been talking about this whole time.

So once again, you had to STRETCH in order to retcon your argument.

[LV426]

https://thefederalist.com/2019/05/02...t-un-american/

Another Op-Ed, but not one single example of someone losing out on a job because of quotas.

[LV426]

Both you and Dutch have altered your arguments so much that they don't even resemble the same argument you made at the beginning.

IN a thread talking about hiring practices for dozsens of posts, you unilaterally, and in bad faith, decided to change the subject to college admissions.

But even then, you weren't being truthful because you literally cut the conclusion of the history out of your post, and the conclusion is quite exculpatory because SCOTUS ruled that race can be used as a criterion in college admissions.

That SCOTUS case didn't touch on hiring practices, which has been what you've been screeching about for dozens of posts before flipping to college admissions, which is a wholly different subject, and one we weren't talking about.

[LV426]

cite the line from legislation that says it's not discrimination.

LMAO!

So I just tricked you.

AA isn't legislation at all.

There has never been an AA bill that Congress voted on and the President signed.

What a fucking idiot...you're raging against something you know absolutely nothing about.

LMAO @ how fucking easy it was for me to con you on a message board thread.

[LV426]

cite the line from legislation that says it's not discrimination.

This is one of those kinds of posts that just sticks with you, like getting sprayed by a skunk...

I completely and totally tricked you into thinking that AA is legislation.

You were so easily tricked and fooled by me because you're a fucking idiot.

You don't know the first thing about AA, so you can't claim it does something while knowing nothing about it.

Now this thread gets to stand for all time as a monument to your inability to effectively bullshit.

[Doc Dutch]

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SCOTUS Divided Over Affirmative Action in College Admissions
The charge of "reverse discrimination"-meaning racial discrimination against whites or sexual discrimination against men-is fast becoming one of the most explosive issues in the field of civil rights. It has grown out of the various "affirmative action" programs, often required by Federal agencies, designed to place women and minorities in positions not generally open to them in the past. Some of these plans may involve quotas or preferential systems based on race or sex. The question is whether it is legitimate to use a preferential system to fight a discriminatory one. The U.S. Supreme Court last week agreed to rule on this emotion charged matter in a case from California. Allan Bakke, who is white, twice applied for admission to the medical school of the University of California at Davis, and twice was rejected. On the strength of his academic record, Bakke may well have deserved one of the 100 spots in the entering class. But up to sixteen of those places had been set aside for "disadvantaged" students under an affirmative-action program designed to increase the number of Chicano, black, Asian and American Indian doctors in the state. Bakke alleged that he had been the victim of reverse discrimination. The Supreme Court of California agreed with him and the university appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court.

https://www.newsweek.com/affirmative...ination-645648

As noted below, the Fisher v. University of Texas at Austin II (2016) case was both a narrow ruling, 4-3, over a narrow issue, not a general action on AA.


https://www.acslaw.org/expertforum/t...mative-action/

https://www.oyez.org/cases/2015/14-981
Facts of the case
Abigail Fisher, a white female, applied for admission to the University of Texas but was denied. She did not qualify for Texas' Top Ten Percent Plan, which guarantees admission to the top ten percent of every in-state graduating high school class. For the remaining spots, the university considers many factors, including race. Fisher sued the University and argued that the use of race as a consideration in the admissions process violated the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. The district court held that the University’s admissions process was constitutional, and the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit affirmed. The case went to the Supreme Court, which held that the appellate court erred by not applying the strict scrutiny standard to the University’s admission policies. The case was remanded, and the appellate court reaffirmed the lower court’s decision by holding that the University of Texas’ use of race as a consideration in the admissions process was sufficiently narrowly tailored to the legitimate interest of promoting educational diversity and therefore satisfied strict scrutiny.

[LV426]

As noted below, the Fisher v. University of Texas at Austin II (2016) case was both a narrow ruling, 4-3, over a narrow issue, not a general action on AA.

Right, but this is college admissions, and SCOTUS ruled that race can be a criterion in college admissions.

But you and Asshat were talking about HIRING PRACTICES.

You switched to college admissions, and even then, held back some exculpatory information about what SCOTUS decided.

You still have yet to provide any proof of discrimination in hiring thanks to AA, which isn't a bill at all anyway.

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As noted below, the Fisher v. University of Texas at Austin II (2016) case was both a narrow ruling, 4-3, over a narrow issue, not a general action on AA.


https://www.acslaw.org/expertforum/t...mative-action/

https://www.oyez.org/cases/2015/14-981
Facts of the case
Abigail Fisher, a white female, applied for admission to the University of Texas but was denied. She did not qualify for Texas' Top Ten Percent Plan, which guarantees admission to the top ten percent of every in-state graduating high school class. For the remaining spots, the university considers many factors, including race. Fisher sued the University and argued that the use of race as a consideration in the admissions process violated the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. The district court held that the University’s admissions process was constitutional, and the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit affirmed. The case went to the Supreme Court, which held that the appellate court erred by not applying the strict scrutiny standard to the University’s admission policies. The case was remanded, and the appellate court reaffirmed the lower court’s decision by holding that the University of Texas’ use of race as a consideration in the admissions process was sufficiently narrowly tailored to the legitimate interest of promoting educational diversity and therefore satisfied strict scrutiny.

one step in the right direction though, mr. diminishment of good things.

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it's on record that aa does use race, despite fuckos desperate denials, obfuscations, sophistry and insults.

god bless tiny victories.















that's what she said.

[Flash]

All Flash really wants is to be able to say the N-word and not face any personal consequences for doing so.

LV426 is full of shit and the world's biggest hypocrite.

[Flash]

AA is not legislation but it is a set of guidelines that must be followed in hiring. It is basically paperwork that is easy to get around if one wants to do so. It does not require quotas (which are illegal) or giving preference to any category.

However, the discrimination that occurs is often due to decisions by administrators who want to hire more minorities who pressure, require, or select applicants---not because AA required them to do so.

I have seen administrators require a selection committee to present him with three applicants and he would choose. In one instance he chose a minority who was ranked last. Another time he selected the pretty young lady.

In another instance a local black state legislator was pushing for more minority hires and a black guy was hired to do "inventory" just to placate the legislator.

In another instance a woman who was part-time and well-liked by students was hired by simply advertising the position in the local newspaper resulting in only one application saving everybody the time and expense of bringing in other people for interviews.This was a "legal" way to get around affirmative action requirements.

[Diesel]

affirmative action is a despicable race and gender discrimination policy.

revenge and collective punishment are not a legitimate basis for policy.

We'll see about that. I don't want all white people to suffer, but you should.

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We'll see about that. I don't want all white people to suffer, but you should.

thanks?

[AProudLefty]

Coke has admitted to the facts.

https://www.newsweek.com/coca-cola-f...lusion-1570875

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-b1806122.html

A Coca-Cola spokesperson confirmed that the course is "part of a learning plan to help build an inclusive workplace," but also noted that "the video circulating on social media is from a publicly available LinkedIn Learning series and is not a focus of our company's curriculum."

[LV426]

AA is not legislation but it is a set of guidelines that must be followed in hiring

Instead of getting the Flash half-truth/spin, let's get what AA is straight from the horse's mouth:

An affirmative action program includes those policies, practices, and procedures that the contractor implements to ensure that all qualified applicants and employees are receiving an equal opportunity for recruitment, selection, advancement, and every other term and privilege associated with employment.

This only applies to federal contractors, and it doesn't say anything about quotas.