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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    How cool would it be?

    This is something we could team up with the Russians on: they have a lot of experience with Venus exploration.
    I like the floating cities idea. They could use robots to descend for exploration reasons. That said, money will be made in mining, refining and utilization. It's easier to do on the Moon, Mars and using the Asteroid Belt for raw materials dragged into orbit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    243-day sidereal day? Yikes. It's barely rotating.
    A bit warm which is why the poles would be the best place to be given there was a surface colony.

    My solution is to take all of the nukes on Earth and nuke the shit out of Venus to blow off the atmosphere then work from there.

    Not saying it would work, but the light show would be EPIC!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    I like the floating cities idea. They could use robots to descend for exploration reasons. That said, money will be made in mining, refining and utilization. It's easier to do on the Moon, Mars and using the Asteroid Belt for raw materials dragged into orbit.
    If you are a fan of the movie Avatar, we should be mining unobtanium!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    How cool would it be?

    This is something we could team up with the Russians on: they have a lot of experience with Venus exploration.
    Good idea. It's high time we had an International Space Agency as well. Like the U.N. but for space exploration. Forget that stupid Space Farce that the Toadstool cooked up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    If you are a fan of the movie Avatar, we should be mining unobtanium!
    It would have to be something we couldn't get more easily elsewhere. As it is, I think the materials we need can be found on the Moon, Mars and the Asteroid Belt.


    FWIW, I just watched "Avatar" for the second time this past week. I hadn't seen it since the theater when it first came out. Still a good movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    A bit warm which is why the poles would be the best place to be given there was a surface colony.

    My solution is to take all of the nukes on Earth and nuke the shit out of Venus to blow off the atmosphere then work from there.

    Not saying it would work, but the light show would be EPIC!


    Good gods, NO! It would ruin any chance at doing science. Cypress's article even said there are traces of phosphine in the atmosphere. We can't go around killing other possible lifeforms. Prime directive!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Good idea. It's high time we had an International Space Agency as well. Like the U.N. but for space exploration. Forget that stupid Space Farce that the Toadstool cooked up.
    I agree. Space exploration should be an international initiative, and it is probably one of the best ways to get nations to work together cooperatively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I agree. Space exploration should be an international initiative, and it is probably one of the best ways to get nations to work together cooperatively.
    Agreed. Not just for peace, love, dove, but because of the cost involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post


    Good gods, NO! It would ruin any chance at doing science. Cypress's article even said there are traces of phosphine in the atmosphere. We can't go around killing other possible lifeforms. Prime directive!
    We could check to make sure there is no life before blowing off a major part of the atmosphere to reduce surface pressures.

    BTW, the surface of Venus is pretty flat and nasty. Lots of volcanic activity.

    https://www.eso.org/public/outreach/...2/EIS-D6.html#

    That said, colonizing the Moon or Mars is much easier compared to Venus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    We could check to make sure there is no life before blowing off a major part of the atmosphere to reduce surface pressures.

    BTW, the surface of Venus is pretty flat and nasty. Lots of volcanic activity.

    https://www.eso.org/public/outreach/...2/EIS-D6.html#

    That said, colonizing the Moon or Mars is much easier compared to Venus.
    We should probably clean up our own nest first, before we go shit in another one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    We should probably clean up our own nest first, before we go shit in another one.
    That's not the way human beings roll.

    We usually make a big fucking mess then leave like teenagers going to a friends house for a party while the parents are out of town.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    That's not the way human beings roll.

    We usually make a big fucking mess then leave like teenagers going to a friends house for a party while the parents are out of town.
    Sadly this is far too true.
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    Mars pics from Perseverance are slowly coming in as tests on the systems are completed.

    Perseverance has its own Twitter page. The picture below is from the "jetpack" that landed Perseverance under power on a tether, then cut the tethers and flew away to crash.

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    https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...f-exploration/
    NASA’s latest mission to the Red Planet will seek out signs of ancient life, gather samples for return to Earth, and even fly a first-of-its-kind interplanetary helicopter
    Shortly after 3:44 P.M. Eastern time today, a visitor from Earth fell from a clear, cold Martian sky into a 3.5-billion-year old, 50-kilometer-wide bowl of rock, dust and volcanic ash called Jezero Crater that once held a large lake. Seven minutes earlier, it had touched the top of the planet’s atmosphere at nearly 20,000 kilometers per hour, bleeding off most of its speed through friction, protected from the resulting fireball by a heat shield. A supersonic parachute the size of a Little League baseball field unfurled to slow it further, followed by a final computer-piloted descent on a robotic jetpack called a sky crane, which used a detachable tether to gently lower the visitor to rest upon the crater floor. Far overhead, orbital spacecraft monitored its progress, awaiting the first signals confirming its successful landing, which, beamed Earthward at the speed of light, would arrive at our planet some 11 minutes later.

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