We have to split up!

[Stone]

They had the option to beg for reentry into civilized society. They declined it.

Truly Civilized societies do not make people, ANY people,..BEG to gain entrance. This post in and of itself proves that the lefts version of a civilized society isnt civilized at all in fact.

[Diesel]

What the fuck is this silly mess


The right has been a pack of lying cheating assholes my entire life


I have over a decade of posts at this site

And all those years it is very clear who the liars are and me going after them


Blaming society?


You are the one who says that about your own claimed philosophy


I’ll go get your posts doing it

You said society doesn't hold liars accountable. Your words. Your true colors. You're garbage.

[evince]

You are spectacularly stupid. No, I'm serious. You deserve a dunce cap.

You are a pawn of the Democratic party. It created you. You did not create it. You are equally as evil and equally as thoughtless as an ardent Republican. Although I agree with Democrats on more policy issues than I agree with Republicans, all partisans, including you, are trash people who daily contribute to the degradation of our political society.

Perhaps someone can buy you a book about multi-party representative parliamentary governments. It is not "shitty democracy". It's a far superior way of governing than the dumpster fire shit show that assholes like you support and maintain.

And then you bitched about Republicans as you unceasingly do. I didn't read the rest.

So you wish to change our system into a parliamentary system?

[evince]

You said society doesn't hold liars accountable. Your words. Your true colors. You're garbage.

You are mistaken

I would hope you would supply the post of mine that gave you this impression so I could clarify for you

[evince]

You said society doesn't hold liars accountable. Your words. Your true colors. You're garbage.

Please elaborate on your governmental beliefs

Thank you in advance

[evince]

You said society doesn't hold liars accountable. Your words. Your true colors. You're garbage.

If a society does not hold lairs accountable for their lies and publically shame the liars a society will find its self in the situation we currently have


Many people being taken in by the lies and lead off on a distructive tangent as we currently are living


It happened because all the news except fox tried to be overly “FAIR” to the liars


Fox just full on lied to protect the liars and backed their lies


Political correctness baffled them


They actually though if they were soft spoken and deferential to the liars it would prove to them they were fair


Remember how trump would spout a blatant lie in his first run and the news would Not call it a lie


It was all “he misspoke”, “He misunderstood the data”,

“He got the facts wrong”



TRUMP WAS LYING


And the news stations tried to be too deferential


So for the moment we didn’t hold the liars responsible


There are times in history it happens


And now society is holding the liars responsible


Does that clarify it for you?

[evince]

I don’t believe the American people would agree to heave the founders and the congressional system for a parliment


And again

How does libertarianism mesh with socialism in your preferred system?

[Doc Dutch]

I don’t believe the American people would agree to heave the founders and the congressional system for a parliment

And again

How does libertarianism mesh with socialism in your preferred system?

Agreed on parliamentarianim.

OTOH, We the People certainly need election reform. Specifically less money influencing elections against the best interests of the nation.

Term limits would be good too. Say 5 terms for the House and 2 terms for the Senate...we can start with "consecutively" and see how that works meaning people can move back and forth between the House and Senate an unlimited number of times.

Ranking. I like the idea of ranking candidates by preference. In 1992 if people had ranked their vote as Perto, Bush and Clinton, then Bush would have won reelection.

Likewise, in 2000, if Democrats had ranked Nader, Gore, Bush, then Gore would have won.

[evince]

All term limits do is limit the voters CHOICE

I believe in the people

Give them the facts and a system that there is no election cheating and let them PICK WHO THEY WANT


in every other field expertise is revered


Why turn government into an Amateur hour only endeavor


The ranking thing could work better as on in an primary the two top vote getter run it off


But I have to mention those example cases the Democratic Party members would have won if the republicans had been prevented from cheating

[Lightbringer]

What’s your claim assflap


That I just agreed libertarianism is unworkable in practice because mankind won’t stick to being “noble” without laws and regulation?


Yes I agree with that


Libertarianism is a fantasy just like communism and socialism


What does work very well is a hunted system like the one our American founders designed

A Democratic republic that employs some socialism in certain areas and a full Embrace of capitalism which is prppoperly fettered with regulations to keep the capitalism from eating its self

How can anyone disagree with that?

It was this part of his statement, the one you took care to quote, that is interesting:

Humans simply can't be trusted to do the right thing without government controlling their actions, which is why libertarianism fails.

Why do you hate America?

The government is made up of humans, the same beings you just agreed never do the right thing. Back away from the blotter you old hippie.

[Diesel]

Truly Civilized societies do not make people, ANY people,..BEG to gain entrance. This post in and of itself proves that the lefts version of a civilized society isnt civilized at all in fact.

The left hasn't devolved into a mindless mob who for 30 years has refused to manage the government when given the privilege and did its absolute best to destroy it whenever it lost an election. The left hasn't spent months lying about a fair election because they're a bunch of brain washed sore losers. The left hasn't spent every hour of the Biden presidency bitching about "cancel culture" and Meghan Markel. The left isn't tearing itself apart because it sold its nonexistent soul to an authoritarian Nazi and completely lost control. The right has no standing in the universe to call the left "uncivilized".

[Diesel]

So you wish to change our system into a parliamentary system?

No. I want a true multi-party system. I don't want the executive to have any power over the legislature except to be able to offer legislation and sign or vetoes bills Congress sends to him.

[Diesel]

You are mistaken

I would hope you would supply the post of mine that gave you this impression so I could clarify for you

513. Try to keep track of what you write.

[Diesel]

Please elaborate on your governmental beliefs

Thank you in advance

That is the dumbest question I have ever seen in this forum.

[evince]

No. I want a true multi-party system. I don't want the executive to have any power over the legislature except to be able to offer legislation and sign or vetoes bills Congress sends to him.

We have a multi party system

When the people vote and join parties THEY CHOOSE TWO PARTYS

ITS CALLED DEMOCRACY

you gonna FORCE your idea on the majority?