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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Republican economic ideas are crap
    then I guess crap works because the Trump years were some of the best in US history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guille View Post
    Wow, you have no idea what you just agreed with do you?
    What’s your claim assflap


    That I just agreed libertarianism is unworkable in practice because mankind won’t stick to being “noble” without laws and regulation?


    Yes I agree with that


    Libertarianism is a fantasy just like communism and socialism


    What does work very well is a hunted system like the one our American founders designed

    A Democratic republic that employs some socialism in certain areas and a full Embrace of capitalism which is prppoperly fettered with regulations to keep the capitalism from eating its self

    How can anyone disagree with that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by redfish View Post
    then I guess crap works because the Trump years were some of the best in US history.
    For Putin and the one percent

    It was hell for everyone else

    Oh and it wasn’t really conservatism

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    What’s your claim assflap


    That I just agreed libertarianism is unworkable in practice because mankind won’t stick to being “noble” without laws and regulation?


    Yes I agree with that


    Libertarianism is a fantasy just like communism and socialism


    What does work very well is a hunted system like the one our American founders designed

    A Democratic republic that employs some socialism in certain areas and a full Embrace of capitalism which is prppoperly fettered with regulations to keep the capitalism from eating its self

    How can anyone disagree with that?
    ez if one is an ideologue who prizes anarchy, or rejects your assumption of human nature. And of course there are idiots who don't think before they disagree.
    They can disagree with anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Libertarianism is a fantasy just like communism and socialism...
    Socialism is the public sector--every economic system within every system of government has some measure of it.

    Continuing to use Joseph McCarthy's Cold War connotation of a perfectly good word allows the right to keep the conversation dumbed down.
    A dumbed-down national conversation is the far right's mother's milk.

    It's impossible to find anyone any dumber than those who buy the far right's bullshit,
    and our population is polluted with tens of millions of them.
    Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson, 1775
    Religion....is the opiate of the people. Karl Marx, 1848
    Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose. Kris Kristofferson, 1969

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    Yeap


    The founders studied governments throughout history and deemed what broke them and why


    So the invented a brand new hybrid that solved those weaknesses with doses of the strongest parts of other systems


    And mankind has been in awe of it since then


    Many nations adopted this hybrid idea and followed the founders lead


    The Republican Party is trying to STRIP some of the aspects out and demonized them so they can deconstruct the founders system and cause us to fail


    Those people need to be heaved on the trash heap of history

    And we will as a nation and a fabulous system are now doing that


    Take heart


    We will win

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    I'm not splitting anything. We'll just have it all for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    I haven’t followed the thread so I apologize if this has already been discussed. I’ve voted third party before. And I’ve heard it all from ‘you’re throwing away your vote’ to ‘its a cop out’ etc. etc. I disagree but to each his own.

    You say you support multi parties. What’s your take on people currently voting third party?
    It's a good question and an interesting topic. I am thoroughly opposed to not only the two-party system but also to the two parties themselves. I vote third party sometimes. I voted third party in the 2016 presidential election. It sounds like you can imagine the backlash I received from people who voted for Clinton. I've never been a Democrat, but I was considered a traitor who enabled Trump by some people. I resented the hostile treatment. Clearly the four years of Trump hell set the US back at least a generation, but I don't regret my vote. I will vote third party again -- whenever it suits me and my standards.

    Ultimately, we need more than two, more than three parties. We need a robust, multi-party system that precludes any single party from gaining a decisive majority. We need coalitions. We need agreement between people who disagree. Does that intersect with your thinking at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Would you accept as a better answer: "after years of painstaking research, vast reflection, statistical regression and earnest inquiry Libertarianism is crap dude?"
    That would be a better answer but not a satisfactory answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Colorful and apt. I fear that since their fears are largely unjustified and they still occupy an exalted position in society (any team photo of the Senate will due)
    what they might do if they really suffered loss of station. Not like they are slaves in Rome washing my shorts in urine.
    We shall see. The delusion is more impenetrable than it has ever been. Their desperation is palpable. They cheered for Donald Motherfucking Trump at CPAC. Can you believe it? They had the option to beg for reentry into civilized society. They declined it. Buckle up because they are going to become angrier and more violent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Diversion

    You can’t argue it’s not crap

    Because

    It is crap
    I see. You're a cunt. How's that for an argument?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel View Post
    We shall see. The delusion is more impenetrable than it has ever been. Their desperation is palpable. They cheered for Donald Motherfucking Trump at CPAC. Can you believe it? They had the option to beg for reentry into civilized society. They declined it. Buckle up because they are going to become angrier and more violent.
    Well maybe that's what we need then. What does one do with a spoiled brat who is acting out? Indulge? They need to go to their room without supper and realize how good they actually have it.
    I'm thinking Cartman and the dog trainer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    The formation of a two major party system with small parties floating arround in limbo was created by people forming coalitions

    It’s can’t be forced because you fail to understand it’s the people who created this system


    What do you get if you have three or more major partys of nearly equal power?


    30 percent of the people picking the representatives and leaders for 70 percent of the people


    That is shitty democracy


    This nations problems are caused by a Republican Party that decided to push off their falling popularity by cheating in elections to keep brown and black Americans from voting


    That is the only change this nation needs

    How about we punish them and stop them from cheating
    You are spectacularly stupid. No, I'm serious. You deserve a dunce cap.

    You are a pawn of the Democratic party. It created you. You did not create it. You are equally as evil and equally as thoughtless as an ardent Republican. Although I agree with Democrats on more policy issues than I agree with Republicans, all partisans, including you, are trash people who daily contribute to the degradation of our political society.

    Perhaps someone can buy you a book about multi-party representative parliamentary governments. It is not "shitty democracy". It's a far superior way of governing than the dumpster fire shit show that assholes like you support and maintain.

    And then you bitched about Republicans as you unceasingly do. I didn't read the rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel View Post
    I see. You're a cunt. How's that for an argument?
    Dear sir

    Please describe for me your beliefs on the economy and how you view the subject of regulations on our capitalist system


    I’m hoping you might describe them in some substantive way


    I will refrain from insults the entire time


    I thank you in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Sure you do


    Your economic ideas are crap

    They fail every time they are used


    That makes them crap no matter what level of education you have
    You are such a bitter, brainless bitch. Who said your quote? Name the name.

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