Herd Immunity Is Not Around the Corner

[Geeko Sportivo]

When the polio vaccine was administered they did not ask. They came into schools and lined us up. When you got to the front, you got the vaccine. Polio was eradicated because we did not have rightys crying about the vaccines. The anti-science special cases are doing real damage. I hope they are proud.

Polio is also passed along from person to person, as I was wrong by saying it was not. But Polio nor smallpox was never in a pandemic stage anywhere in the world.

There were only 50,000 Americans that experienced having the disease even in the breakout years at any one time, and only 2% of them died from it.

[Legion]

I was wrong.

Indeed.

[Geeko Sportivo]

Who told you that?

History Books!

[Geeko Sportivo]

Indeed.

EAT A DICK!

[moon]

Big Monkey Dollop

you folks stay at home, scared, we got this, we'll go back to life and keep the economy going. stay home, stay scared. it's all good. we got this.

Delusional prosemitic twat.


Haw, haw.......................................haw.

[Legion]

But Polio nor smallpox was never in a pandemic stage anywhere in the world.

Is that so?

Smallpox was endemic to Europe, Asia and Arabia for centuries, a persistent menace that killed three out of ten people it infected and left the rest with pockmarked scars. But the death rate in the Old World paled in comparison to the devastation wrought on native populations in the New World when the smallpox virus arrived in the 15th century with the first European explorers.

The indigenous peoples of modern-day Mexico and the United States had zero natural immunity to smallpox and the virus cut them down by the tens of millions.

There hasn’t been a kill off in human history to match what happened in the Americas—90 to 95 percent of the indigenous population wiped out over a century. Mexico went from 11 million people pre-conquest to one million.


https://www.history.com/news/pandemics-end-plague-cholera-black-death-smallpox

[Legion]

History Books!

I don't believe you.

[cordeela]

In UK covid 19 killer pandemic virus, apparently has no effect on Soccer and Rugby players. Not one police officer has suffered from the KILLER virus despite they turn out in the multi hundreds, arms linked while they batter members of the public for not wearing a mask. Not forgetting when they sit huddled together in their police van as they work up the hate.
During all this I am not allowed to meet my next door neighbour for fear of being dragged away by the Stasi.
YES - THIS KILLER PANDEMIC IS A TRICKY LITTLE BUGGER ALL RIGHT.

[Walt]

So what should we do next?

We need to keep playing it by ear. We need to keep making adjustments, and finding the best solution. Education is important, so Biden is right to try to open that up as much as he can. Strip clubs are less important, but if we get low numbers, we should open them up too. If we get high numbers, there is no way we should open up strip clubs, and unfortunately we might have to close schools too.

If we do reach herd immunity, or do wipe out the disease through clustering vaccinations and/or quarantining around breakouts, then happy days, throw away the masks, hug and kiss your neighbor.

On the other hand, the South African variant is somewhat vaccine resistant, and the English variant has higher transmission numbers. If these start hitting America hard, and killing rising numbers, then lockdowns will not be perfect, but they will be something. Even if they do not hit America, and vaccines work somewhat, some social distancing and masks could be just the thing to lower the R number under 1.

[Hawkeye10]

We need to keep playing it by ear. We need to keep making adjustments, and finding the best solution. Education is important, so Biden is right to try to open that up as much as he can. Strip clubs are less important, but if we get low numbers, we should open them up too. If we get high numbers, there is no way we should open up strip clubs, and unfortunately we might have to close schools too.

If we do reach herd immunity, or do wipe out the disease through clustering vaccinations and/or quarantining around breakouts, then happy days, throw away the masks, hug and kiss your neighbor.

On the other hand, the South African variant is somewhat vaccine resistant, and the English variant has higher transmission numbers. If these start hitting America hard, and killing rising numbers, then lockdowns will not be perfect, but they will be something. Even if they do not hit America, and vaccines work somewhat, some social distancing and masks could be just the thing to lower the R number under 1.

Something never before in human history done, and something that is illegal, something that is profoundly ignorant and abusive, ....but it is something!

[Walt]

Something never before in human history done

Lockdowns, quarantining, social distancing, even masks have been done often in human history. They have all been done in America.

The problem here is you have become too used to everything being taken care of. Your life is easy, because experts are working hard to avoid these horrible breakouts that used to be quite frequent, but now are rare. You are surprised when one happens now, and think this is an all new thing.

[Hawkeye10]

Lockdowns, quarantining, social distancing, even masks have been done often in human history. They have all been done in America.

The problem here is you have become too used to everything being taken care of. Your life is easy, because experts are working hard to avoid these horrible breakouts that used to be quite frequent, but now are rare. You are surprised when one happens now, and think this is an all new thing.

Pandemic Lockdowns of entire populations regardless of risk have never been done before now.

QUARANTINE of the sick and vulnerable is what our ancestors did and taught us.

The End

[PoliTalker]

Hello Walt,

For a year now, the right wing promised us herd immunity was around the corner. It was a lazy reaction to the pandemic. We would not have to do anything, and the pandemic would just stop.

Lets look at a place that is far ahead of us on the path towards herd immunity. Brazil's President says Covid-19 is a hoax. They have made far less of an attempt to stop it than the USA. The biggest city in the Amazon, Manaus, was hardest hit. In April, the city of 2 million was filling mass graves as quickly as they could dig them, but by June, deaths had gone back to pre-pandemic levels. Locals started talking about herd immunity being achieved.

A peer reviewed study entitled "Covid-19 herd immunity in the Brazilian Amazon" said that 76% of the people had immunity, based on tests for antibodies among blood donors. Throughout Brazil there was rejoicing, and even further ignoring of preventative measures. If everyone is immune, why bother with masks?

And now the second wave is hitting. Manaus' hospitals filled up in January. Deaths are almost as high as they were at the highest point, and are continuing to rise. They are digging mass graves as quickly as they can... AGAIN.

What went wrong? Nobody really knows why we cannot seem to get herd immunity with Covid-19, but it is clear that herd immunity is not close. Some theories are:


https://www.economist.com/the-americ...y-it-was-wrong

We will just have to buck up, hang in there, and do our best for as long as it takes.

It's the humans vs the bug. We've got brains. All we have to do is use them. We will prevail.

[Walt]

Pandemic Lockdowns of entire populations regardless of risk have never been done before now.

Actually, they have been done before.

[Lightbringer]

Herd Immunity Is Not Around the Corner

Akshually, it probably is. 18-24 months is what it takes. I've been saying that from the very begimning.