life on other planets

[AProudLefty]

This is what we can observe within 20 years. And it's a small difference.

[PostmodernProphet]

There are no gods.

there are no Texan men with plans......

[Doc Dutch]

Precession is a 26,000 years cycle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_...ion#Hipparchus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_...ient_Egyptians

As noted in the first link, they could have noticed the process.

"Whether or not the ancients knew of the mechanics of the Precession before its definition by Hipparchos the Bithynian in the second century BC is uncertain, but as dedicated watchers of the night sky they could not fail to be aware of its effects."

I was a big fan of the Ancient Astronaut fad when I was a kid, but like UFOs and ESP, it never proved out.

[AProudLefty]

As noted in the first link, they could have noticed the process.

"Whether or not the ancients knew of the mechanics of the Precession before its definition by Hipparchos the Bithynian in the second century BC is uncertain, but as dedicated watchers of the night sky they could not fail to be aware of its effects."

I was a big fan of the Ancient Astronaut fad when I was a kid, but like UFOs and ESP, it never proved out.

Well, as that poster says, "I Want To Believe".

[Doc Dutch]

Well, as that poster says, "I Want To Believe".

It's just as easy to believe an ancient human civilization rose and fell over 30,000 years ago and most traces were wiped by the glaciers or buried by the jungles as the Earth warmed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weichselian_glaciation


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Glacial_Period

[AProudLefty]

It's just as easy to believe an ancient human civilization rose and fell over 30,000 years ago and most traces were wiped by the glaciers or buried by the jungles as the Earth warmed.

What do you think about Plato's hint that Atlantis existed?

[Doc Dutch]

What do you think about Plato's hint that Atlantis existed?

I think it did exist, but there are very few facts. The Thera eruption probably served as a basis for the story just like the UK served as the basis for George Orwell's Airstrip One in 1984. The eruption was so great it put 14 cubic miles of rock into the air...and what goes up, must come down. LOL

The https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minoan_eruption

[TexanManWithPlans]

only one way to find out

False. We can know this through reason. There are no gods because (a) there is no evidence for any proposed deity, and (b) everything we know about the universe suggests that no proposed deity is necessary in any capacity.

[Lightbringer]

False. We can know this through reason. There are no gods because (a) there is no evidence for any proposed deity, and (b) everything we know about the universe suggests that no proposed deity is necessary in any capacity.

Do tell.

[TexanManWithPlans]

there are no Texan men with plans......

There is as much evidence for your particular god as their is for any of the other 10,000 proposed gods from other religions throughout the past hundred thousand years when homo sapiens started to believe in such things.

The biggest clue that religion is man-made is the fact that more than one exists. The smorgasbord of religion throughout the world and throughout history is exactly what one would expect to see if religion is just fairy tales.

[TexanManWithPlans]

Do tell.

Tell what? It's not my burden to prove Zeus or Yahweh or Ahura Mazda exist.

[Lightbringer]

Tell what? It's not my burden to prove Zeus or Yahweh or Ahura Mazda exist.

You just stated something as a fact, I expect you to prove it.

Do you not know how this works?

[TexanManWithPlans]

You just stated something as a fact, I expect you to prove it.

Do you not know how this works?

No. Religious people state as fact a deity and provide no evidence. Why should society kowtow to your fairy tales?

[Lightbringer]

No. Religious people state as fact a deity and provide no evidence. Why should society kowtow to your fairy tales?

You stated something as a fact. Stop being a fucking pussy.

[PostmodernProphet]

There is as much evidence for your particular god as their is for any of the other 10,000 proposed gods from other religions throughout the past hundred thousand years when homo sapiens started to believe in such things.

did you think anyone was trying to give you evidence?........sorry for your confusion.....

The biggest clue that religion is man-made is the fact that more than one exists. The smorgasbord of religion throughout the world and throughout history is exactly what one would expect to see if religion is just fairy tales.

so on that basis I guess the best clue that there are no good ideas is that more than one exist?.....can one prove there are no truths because untruth exists.......smells liked a very familiar logical fallacy to me......