Guno צְבִי (02-09-2021), ThatOwlWoman (02-09-2021)
Some good insights.
I might be in the boomer age range too, so it gives me no pleasure to make my generation look like dunces!
I cannot find the article I read right now, but a quick google search turned up some articles which posed the hilarious question: "Did your crazy Uncle fall for Qanon?"
Guno צְבִי (02-09-2021), ThatOwlWoman (02-09-2021)
"Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain
Doc Dutch (02-09-2021), Guno צְבִי (02-09-2021)
"Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"
Hello midcan5,
Thanks for putting this together:
Wow, excellent compilation of information - most informative!
Looks like a lot of work went into this OP. It's going to take a while to go through it all, but I have a feeling it will be well worth it.
That video was awesome. Ordinarily I would not spend 12 minutes to watch a vid that somebody posted, but because I regard you as one of our best informed posters I went ahead and took the time. It was worth it. Very nice to see that. And what a huge breakthrough in exposing some of the instigators behind the Qanonsense.
So encouraging to hear solid sense and reason pushing out garbage-thought and mindless rumor.
Thanks!
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Guno צְבִי (02-09-2021), midcan5 (02-13-2021)
Another great subject for someone's doctoral thesis.
We're in an age of transition and transitions are never easy. It's like the transition between being a child to being a teenager to being a full-fledged adult. It's painful growth but necessary as a part of maturation.
As mentioned before, despite all the shit I enjoy giving them, Millennials are very likely to become the 21st Century's Greatest Generation because of all the shit they've experienced growing up.
From the controversy of the 2000 election to 9/11 to the controversy of the 2020 election and all the shit in between, it's been quite an experience for them.
I think most of them will be good people like "Disaster Girl", Zoe Roth now about 20 years old. She's a beautiful young woman with a great attitude.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/1463...-bizarre-fame/
"Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"
Cypress (02-09-2021), Guno צְבִי (02-09-2021), Phantasmal (02-09-2021), ThatOwlWoman (02-09-2021)
christiefan915 (02-09-2021), Phantasmal (02-09-2021)
Disagreed. Just because Trump was better at the cult thing and dumber on the Washington politics things doesn't detract from Hillary's little cult of personality.
Two facts are noteworthy: Her cult died within two years of her 2016 loss. She still has her fans and defenders.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...here-find-them
The “MAGA fans” and “Bernie bros” manifest the same patterns of behavior that Atran finds among those committed to sacred values. For one, they elevate their favored leader, both mentally and by voting and making financial contributions to their campaigns. They also denigrate opposing candidates (not to mention the supporters of those candidates). Secondly, their activity becomes more intense when their candidate’s success was threatened—witness the reaction of Sanders supporters to moves the Democratic party made in Hillary Clinton’s favor. Finally, both sets of supporters display a proclivity for ignoring negative stories, and eventually in Trump’s case, his failures to make good on promises to build a convincing wall or deliver quality healthcare. On a small and interpersonal level, this is the treatment that cult leaders strive for: no questions, no doubts, only unending commitment and respect. Politically, of course, large numbers of energetic and decidedly uncritical followers make life easier.
"Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"
AProudLefty (02-09-2021), Doc Dutch (02-09-2021), Guno צְבִי (02-09-2021)
AProudLefty (02-09-2021), Cypress (02-09-2021)
According to opinion polls, as many as one in three Americans believe that the 2020 election was fraudulent. They believe this because Trump and his helpers have been repeating for months that there was "widespread fraud" - with no evidence, of course.
Trump's motive is clear enough: self-serving as always, he wants to maintain credibility with his followers as the one who can never lose, and he doesn't give a damn what harm it does to the country. He may even have come to believe it himself.
In a society as free and open as America, it's difficult to see what can be done to stop people who are determined to spread lies, especially if they have a receptive audience. That's why I say that an independent commission should be set up to examine these claims and clear them up once and for all.
christiefan915 (02-09-2021), ThatOwlWoman (02-09-2021)
First off, Well Said. Secondly, I like the idea of a commission but I am dubious that they will be able to suggest a viable method to actually deal with it. My thinking is since we are all so tied to the Web and Televisión that a message needs to be pushed to counter the message from the extremists, it might save some.
PoliTalker (02-09-2021), ThatOwlWoman (02-09-2021), Tranquillus in Exile (02-09-2021)
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