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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Hawley says a lot of shit that isn't true. There were no "Antifa" at his home. There were a couple dozen people holding a candlelight vigil, and they left a copy of the Constitution on the porch. The police were there. No one was armed nor were they at all threatening. They held a prayer session, then they quietly left.

    "Hawley said protesters at his Virginia home "screamed threats, vandalized, and tried to pound open (his) door."

    "This conflicts with police accounts of the event and a video showing the full demonstration. The demonstration was disruptive, but the full video shows it was not as violent as he made it sound.

    "We rate this claim Mostly False."
    (source: https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...-disruptive-n/ )

    The actual video of the protest:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    They are experts at doing that.

    It's their go-to tactic.

    Their stock-in-trade.
    Inversion fallacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CASPER View Post
    Heck they don't even try to hide it,
    Hide what?
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    it is just that many cannot actually believe what they are seeing and try to talk themselves out of the realization that the Repubs are no longer the Party of Lincoln but have now sold their souls to a con artist that does not believe anything is too low so long as he wins including tearing down the Nation itself.
    It is Democrats that committed election fraud, dude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Hide what?

    It is Democrats that committed election fraud, dude.
    Fact, you are a pinhead.
    Lock Him Up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    That's less than in 2016..and these "rioters" didn't destroy people's property or burn any cars.
    It's a totally different demographic.
    They did. Antifa, like usual, smashed windows and doors at the Capital building and attacked the police. It was Antifa and BLM that brought the hammers and saps used to break windows and doors. It was Antifa members that were let into the Capitol building by Democrats to photo-op in a false flag operation. It was all staged by the Democrats. Unfortunately, one women, who was a Trump supporter that was trying to stop Antifa, was shot by an unknown gunman from inside the building. The shot was premeditated. Despite the fact that the gun was a semiautomatic pistol, probably a Glock, The gunman carefully scanned for a target, fired once, and withdrew. This is NOT a panicked security guard. It was a planned shot. It was murder.

    Uncut videos of this incident are still available for view despite the best efforts of Youtube and Big Tech to censor it and edit it. You can still see it on Bitschute and Rumble, and when Parler is re-established, probably on Parler as well (it was there when Amazon shut it down).
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    Quote Originally Posted by CASPER View Post
    Heck they don't even try to hide it, it is just that many cannot actually believe what they are seeing and try to talk themselves out of the realization that the Repubs are no longer the Party of Lincoln but have now sold their souls to a con artist that does not believe anything is too low so long as he wins including tearing down the Nation itself.
    The Dems are not the party of Bill Clinton or Jimmy Carter, so what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    The coup was Trumps.
    Inversion fallacy. Trump is not in power. Democrats are.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    he was trying to overthrow a fair and honest election.
    There was no fair and honest election. You can't overthrow what never took place. Election fraud is not an election.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    He started with relatively peaceful methods, like recount, after recount,
    No, he never did. Recounting fake ballots is pointless.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Then when he could not get his people to change the result
    Not 'his people'. States conduct their own elections. The legislature of each State are the ONLY ones that can change election law or choose the electors. Election laws were changed by people not authorized to change them, at the last minute. Further, laws were flat out broken by election offices in some precincts such as the ones in Philadelphia, Detroit, Atlanta, Las Vegas, etc.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    he went to court over 60 times.
    Trump never filed 60 lawsuits.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    They all failed.
    The courts failed. They simply refused to act or even hear any case.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    That is when they went to violence.
    Trump never ordered violence. He emphasized peaceful protest. He reiterated peaceful action, not vandalism or violence. The video of his entire speech on Jan 6th is still available for viewing so people can see for themselves, but not on Youtube or anywhere in Big Tech firms, or anywhere in the news media.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    He held a rally of people he had duped. He had speaker after speaker talk about his the fair election was actually a theft,
    It was.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    not if just his election, but it was a theft from them. They stirred them up and made them angrier and angrier. Then Trump said, let's go to the capitol bldg.
    It was. You left out the 'peaceful protest' part...intentionally. You are a liar. Anyone who wishes to can go and view the entire speech.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    What did anyone would think was going to happen.
    A peaceful protest in large numbers.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    They had a structure to hang people. they chanted "hang Pence." They were furious.
    Antifa built that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    So 5 people died.
    ONE person died as a result of an unknown gunman in the building making a planned, methodical shot, a single shot (despite the weapon being a semiautomatic pistol), and withdrew. it was murder. The full video of this sequence is still available as well, for those that want to watch it for themselves (warning: graphic). You won't find it anywhere on Youtube or Big Tech. It's been censored there.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    The nation's capitol bldg was trashed.
    Yes it was...by Antifa members.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    If they caught the politicians, they would have been killed.
    Nope. Never was in the plan. The whole thing was staged by Democrats and Antifa as a false flag operation.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Trump told them" ,you can not take your country back with weakness. Fight like hell" yeah we know who staged a coup.
    Democrats.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    I feel sorry for Pence.
    So do I. He betrayed Trump, he betrayed the people, and he betrayed the Democrats. He has only himself to blame.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    He could not do what trump ordered.
    Trump ordered nothing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    he did not have the power to change the electoral votes.
    No one was asking him to. The electoral votes of at least seven States were filed as Contested. These State legislatures did not certify the electors that were read out in the combined session. Senators and representatives of those States even said so.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Now his life was threatened and he cannot go on public. His career is likely over.
    Typical Democrats. Thugs.

    You are right, however. Pence has broken his trust with too many people, and from both parties. He's done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CASPER View Post
    Oh My, an internet tough guy, not impressed Skippy, you wouldn't last 10 seconds. Now run along, it has to be past your bed time.
    Oh my. an internet tough guy. Not impressed Caspy. You wouldn't last 10 seconds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by no worries View Post
    Just like a teabagger,
    I don't drink much tea.
    Quote Originally Posted by no worries View Post
    they downplay anything that implicates them,
    You are describing Democrats.
    Quote Originally Posted by no worries View Post
    just like their fat, orange, insurrectionist, dear leader.
    Trump is not an insurrectionist. He was President. Figure it out, dumbass.

    Antifa and BLM are funded and supported by Democrats. They are insurrectionists. They commandeer sections of cities and claim them as their own country. They burn, loot, and pillage. That attack police. They attack militia.

    Quote Originally Posted by no worries View Post
    Now, teabaggers are calling rioters, "protesters"?
    Peaceful protesting is legal, dumbass. Antifa and BLM are NOT peaceful. They were the ones that brought the bricks, the fireworks, the hammers, the saps, the zip ties, and everything else.

    You seem to think that Trump inspired people listening to him at the last minute to mysteriously go out and conjure the hammers, the bricks, the fireworks, the saps, the zip ties, and all the rest of it, just from listening to his speech on Jan 6th.

    Antifa and BLM planned this from the beginning, with the help of the Democrats. It was Democrats that LET some Antifa members inside the Capitol building through a side access (again prearranged), to do photo-ops of trashing offices and the House chambers.
    Quote Originally Posted by no worries View Post
    They are responsible for 5 deaths,
    None. One women was killed by an unknown gunman in a premeditated attack. She was a Trump supporter trying to stop Antifa.
    The other four deaths were medical issues that had nothing to do with any of the violence.
    Quote Originally Posted by no worries View Post
    they carried zip ties,
    ANTIFA carried zip ties. They were brought by Antifa for a specific purpose. Trump supporters do not conjure them up after listening to Trump's speech.
    Quote Originally Posted by no worries View Post
    destroyed property
    Antifa did that. Antifa brought the hammers and saps to do it. They brought the bricks to do it.
    Quote Originally Posted by no worries View Post
    and were on the hunt for politicians.
    Nope. The whole thing was staged by Democrats and Antifa as a false flag operation.
    Quote Originally Posted by no worries View Post
    Of course, now teabaggers lie about it,
    Inversion fallacy. The full videos of that day, including the shooting and Trump's unedited speech on Jan 6th and after, are available to be viewed by anyone, but not on Youtube. It was all censored there.
    Quote Originally Posted by no worries View Post
    even with video evidence, just like Dotard.
    The uncut videos are still available to be viewed. Your cut videos are propaganda. They are lies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpet View Post
    Fact, you are a pinhead.
    Buzzword fallacy. Insults are not facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Inversion fallacy.
    Recto-cranial inversion fallacy ^^^

    https://i.postimg.cc/PqVCnGks/gojoe1.jpg
    C'MON MAN!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourbon View Post
    You bcgs whined for 4 years so fuck you you pig fucking inbred retard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    That's less than in 2016..and these "rioters" didn't destroy people's property or burn any cars.
    It's a totally different demographic.
    Their demographic is irrelevant. They did destroy property in the U. S. Capitol building.

    The OP referred to a coup going unpunished. I was showing many thugs are being punished for the riot and destruction.

    They didn't burn any cars but they vandalized vehicles.
    https://fox40.com/news/local-news/po...ndalized-cars/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourbon View Post
    SUCH AS THE RUSSIA LIE.....
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


    De Oppresso Liber

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    I'd respond to that with "Fuck You" and buckshot right to the face. That is called "defense from extortion".
    Too bad I don't have any shotguns.
    Get one. They're cheap.
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