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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    So its just a joke then. Typical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CASPER View Post
    You must have been too young during the Clinton years and forgotten that trump has called for one several times. A Special Prosecutor can investigate the entire election and get to the bottom of if any election fraud or interference was committed and name those that actually committed it, why on earth would you be against that. Are you interested in the Truth or would you rather not face it?
    Special prosecutors investigate the individual.
    "show me the man and i'll show your the crime"

    Like Mueller -when appointed had NO EVIDENCE OF ANY RUSSIAN COLLUSION ( per Lisa Page testimony)
    but that didnt stop him

    Hawley etc called for a commission, not a SP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    It seems some have forgotten, compare Graham’s reaction right after attack to Graham’s reaction now.
    Politics is still in play. RNC Representatives, and some Senators, are up for reelection in 2022. That said, it's not whether the Republicans put up a fight that matters, but how hard a fight they put up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Most impeachments are for judges. There are also impeachments for civil offices. Most impeachments are not Presidential impeachments.

    In almost every piece of Senate business, the Vice President has the right to preside. The Founding Fathers made one exception, and that is an impeachment of the President. The Vice President would be too linked to the President to preside. For all other impeachments, the Vice President can preside, if she wants to.

    Vice Presidents almost always leave presiding over the Senate to the Senate, because they have so little work to do in the Senate. If they are needed as a tie breaker, they show up, but other than that they mostly work out of the White House. Harris is keeping to this trend.

    That leaves Leahy presiding, as he would almost certainly do in any impeachment other than the President's.
    But all impeachment’s are of government officials.
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    It seems some have forgotten, compare Graham’s reaction right after attack to Graham’s reaction now.
    Like I said, Princess, it’s human nature to ‘move one’ mentally as time goes on.

    Democrats had a window to strike while the iron was hot shortly after the mostly peaceful 1/6 protest. But they dithered even after acting like ‘Trump must be impeached NOW’. They did the same thing in the first failed slipshod impeachment: recall how Pelosi dithered after acting like the sky would fall if Trump wasn’t impeached and removed before the end of the week.

    It’s become an established pattern of behavior for Democrats.
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    One thing that needs to be said over and over and over is that Trump was President when he was impeached.
    Jan 13, 2021 - House votes to impeach President Trump
    Jan 20, 2021 - Trump leaves office.

    Then we have this from the US Constitution -
    The Senate has the sole power to try ALL impeachments.

    There is no requirement that impeachments become moot if the person impeached has left office. Rather it specifically states the Senate has "the sole power to try all impeachments." Trump was impeached while in office so that is clearly an impeachment for which the Senate has the power to hold a trial for since they can do that for ALL impeachments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CASPER View Post
    The Dems have always known they had the 14th A to fall back on, they are just putting the Repubs on record whether support insurrections or not, we already know the answer but it needs to be recorded.

    The President has been very busy working hard, unlike the one before him who was doing nothing for months. The Dems have and are dealing with all those issues, I assume that you believe politicians can only deal with one issue at the time, sorry but that is just a diversional tactic.
    What were they busy with a year ago when the virus was spreading here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    But all impeachment’s are of government officials.
    Impeachment are for high crimes and misdemeanors of government officials. Leaving office does not absolve the government official of them. trump can still be impeached.

    Even if this were a court hearing, there would still be the issue of banning. It is not a court hearing. The courts limit themselves to actual issues, but the Senate is not required to.

    Sorry, your "technicality" fails on so many levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Special prosecutors investigate the individual.
    "show me the man and i'll show your the crime"

    Like Mueller -when appointed had NO EVIDENCE OF ANY RUSSIAN COLLUSION ( per Lisa Page testimony)
    but that didnt stop him

    Hawley etc called for a commission, not a SP
    Hawley had no grounds to call for a commission since there was no evidence to support such a commission, he knew that then and knows it now. And That is one of the problems, calling into doubt an election when you Know otherwise is a blatant attack on our election system and Democracy. Hawley destroyed any hopes he ever had of becoming President, actions and words have consequences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Special prosecutors investigate the individual.
    "show me the man and i'll show your the crime"
    In this case, Trump's crimes are documented on video and audio.


    Like Mueller -when appointed had NO EVIDENCE OF ANY RUSSIAN COLLUSION ( per Lisa Page testimony)
    Not what Mueller said, and you wouldn't even know what Mueller said anyway because you famously refuse to read Mueller's Report.

    So you're saying Mueller's report says something, but you haven't read the report for yourself.

    So you're lying about what Mueller's Report said.

    Oh, and you're also lying about what the Republican Senate Intel Committee also said, which was that Trump and his campaign were colluding with Russians all over the place, and that collusion was a major security risk. they even talked about your favorite guy, Paul Manafort, asking Kilmnik to share GOP polling data with Oleg Deripaska.

    Now why would Oleg Deripaska or Konstantin Kilmnik care about polling data from Michigan???


    Hawley etc called for a commission
    For what purpose? The election was secure, all 50 states certified their results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    One thing that needs to be said over and over and over is that Trump was President when he was impeached.
    Jan 13, 2021 - House votes to impeach President Trump
    Jan 20, 2021 - Trump leaves office.

    Then we have this from the US Constitution -
    The Senate has the sole power to try ALL impeachments.

    There is no requirement that impeachments become moot if the person impeached has left office. Rather it specifically states the Senate has "the sole power to try all impeachments." Trump was impeached while in office so that is clearly an impeachment for which the Senate has the power to hold a trial for since they can do that for ALL impeachments.
    THIS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Like I said, Princess, it’s human nature to ‘move one’ mentally as time goes on.

    Democrats had a window to strike while the iron was hot shortly after the mostly peaceful 1/6 protest. But they dithered even after acting like ‘Trump must be impeached NOW’. They did the same thing in the first failed slipshod impeachment: recall how Pelosi dithered after acting like the sky would fall if Trump wasn’t impeached and removed before the end of the week.

    It’s become an established pattern of behavior for Democrats.
    61, you’re a moron, still believing alternative facts, seek help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Roberts has no real say in it. If the Senate orders him to preside, he can either show up, or resign from the Supreme Court.
    I don't think the Senate can order the Chief Justice to do anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    I don't think the Senate can order the Chief Justice to do anything.
    The Constitution orders him to preside over Presidential impeachment trials. If he fails to do such, he is failing in his oath of office, and should resign. If he does not resign, the House should impeach him, and the Senate should vote to convict.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Patrick Leahy presiding !!!
    flash mob impeachment -no Presiding SCOTUS / no Hearings
    Has any impeachment trial included hearings?

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