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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Companies are not required to abide to the First Amendment.
    It's unlikely many of these social media outlets would have ever been able to renew their corporate charters during early USA history.

    https://reclaimdemocracy.org/corpora...rporations-us/

    Our Hidden History of Corporations in the United States
    When American colonists declared independence from England in 1776, they also freed themselves from control by English corporations that extracted their wealth and dominated trade. After fighting a revolution to end this exploitation, our country’s founders retained a healthy fear of corporate power and wisely limited corporations exclusively to a business role. Corporations were forbidden from attempting to influence elections, public policy, and other realms of civic society.

    Initially, the privilege of incorporation was granted selectively to enable activities that benefited the public, such as construction of roads or canals. Enabling shareholders to profit was seen as a means to that end. The states also imposed conditions (some of which remain on the books, though unused) like these*:

    Corporate charters (licenses to exist) were granted for a limited time and could be revoked promptly for violating laws.
    Corporations could engage only in activities necessary to fulfill their chartered purpose.
    Corporations could not own stock in other corporations nor own any property that was not essential to fulfilling their chartered purpose.
    Corporations were often terminated if they exceeded their authority or caused public harm.
    Owners and managers were responsible for criminal acts committed on the job.
    Corporations could not make any political or charitable contributions nor spend money to influence law-making.
    For 100 years after the American Revolution, legislators maintained tight control of the corporate chartering process. Because of widespread public opposition, early legislators granted very few corporate charters, and only after debate. Citizens governed corporations by detailing operating conditions not just in charters but also in state constitutions and state laws. Incorporated businesses were prohibited from taking any action that legislators did not specifically allow.

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    So you disagree with JPP moderation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charoite View Post
    It's not censorship. You agree to the terms of what you can and can't post when you join. If you break those rules you break the contract of the terms of service and are barred. Sometimes it's a slap on the wrist and others are a complete violation resulting in dismissal. By the fringe right-wing standards barring someone for posting illicit material is censorship. Bullshit, plain and simple.
    Censorship is censoring.

    Big Tech practices censorship not just against Trump but against conservative voices. It’s not even debatable. Is it an abridgment of First Amendment rights? No, because it involves private entities.

    But don’t say it’s not censorship because it is.
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

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    Another thing you can’t say is it has no effect on elections because it most certainly does. Many people get their information from these Big Tech oligarchs.
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    Define irony: Ted Cruz still has his Facebook and Twitter accounts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Another thing you can’t say is it has no effect on elections because it most certainly does. Many people get their information from these Big Tech oligarchs.
    Who said it has no effect on elections?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Censorship is censoring.

    Big Tech practices censorship not just against Trump but against conservative voices. It’s not even debatable. Is it an abridgment of First Amendment rights? No, because it involves private entities.

    But don’t say it’s not censorship because it is.
    So you agree that what JPP mods are doing is censorship?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    So you agree that what JPP mods are doing is censorship?
    I agree that it’s meaningless to the debate lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    I agree that it’s meaningless to the debate lol.
    Do you agree or not? Lol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Do you agree or not? Lol?
    I agree but the point is trivial lol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    I agree but the point is trivial lol?
    I suppose. LOL. I guess having your posts removed if they break ToS is censorship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    I suppose. LOL. I guess having your posts removed if they break ToS is censorship.
    But if I say “Biden stole the election” nothing happens to me here.

    If I say the same on FB they either put me in FB jail or drop one of their little boxes down that tells readers what to think about the election.

    Which is more like communist China?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    But if I say “Biden stole the election” nothing happens to me here.

    If I say the same on FB they either put me in FB jail or drop one of their little boxes down that tells readers what to think about the election.

    Which is more like communist China?
    Are you referring to StopTheSteal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Are you referring to StopTheSteal?
    I asked the question first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    I asked the question first.
    The question answers itself based on your context, lol. So yes it's more like Communist China.

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