Diesel (01-24-2021)
Extremist is a useless word because it can apply to either side.
The path to success is stopping the wrong side in its tracks and going as extreme as you can toward the smart, moral side.
That's what the witless trumpanzees thought that they were doing.
Although they're useless slugs, at least they have the balls to go all out. Just no brains to go with them.
They even tried a fucking coup d'etat.
Now's the time to be more extreme than they in the opposite direction.
Moderation is for losers, and sadly, we're losing as a nation and a society.
The so called "middle" is an insane pipe dream.
Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson, 1775
Religion....is the opiate of the people. Karl Marx, 1848
Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose. Kris Kristofferson, 1969
Hello Diesel,
Agreed. Racism and white supremacy should not be tolerated, and has no place in respectful civil discourse. So how do we maintain that when we have internet and social media that allow these extremist hateful views outsized exposure?
I'll tell you what I like. And I think the power of this has been undervalued.
I like what the NFL did. Recall when Trump inserted his bull into the china shop of the racial discussion when the players began to follow Kaepernick's lead of kneeling for the anthem? Trump's response was brash and strong-headed: just fire them. But the NFL knew they need these guys and it would be really bad PR to fire them. So they were open to talks, discussion. A compromise was reached. The players stopped kneeling and the NFL began allowing players and stadiums to display messages of togetherness and awareness. The end zones and the backs of helmets now have messages like "Black Lives Matter," and "It takes all of us." Trump's wrong-headed lack of leadership failed. Compromise and respect prevailed. Nice.
I would like to see more of that all over society. Why not? What would it hurt to have these messages out there, everywhere? Cause people to think about this stuff more. If hateful jerks are going to get more exposure on media, that has to be countered with something, something just as much or more prevalent. I think we should do that with a lot of public spaces. Doors, walls, seating areas, public transportation, art. We put the messages of love out there and they will be seen and felt. Even some who say they are meaningless could be reached subconsciously in this way.
The government works for us, not them. They hate the government. But we can use it to our advantage. We can have messages of unity in public spaces.
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
Diesel (01-24-2021)
"Unity messages" in public places constitute one possible approach.
Whether such makes an adequate alternative plan to the purge of 71,000,000 trumpanzees has not been determined.
Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson, 1775
Religion....is the opiate of the people. Karl Marx, 1848
Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose. Kris Kristofferson, 1969
Hello Darth,
OK, all I did here was respond to your comment:
"... there’s good reason to question whatever intelligence they are using since it was apparently a little faulty with the supposed attacks that were supposed to happen at state Capitols.
They went 0-50 on that."
When you changed the subject under discussion it seemed like whataboutism to me. So now you want to talk about what you consider to be double standards. The NG were called out against night time violence which sometimes followed peaceful daytime BLM protests, which seemed to many of us to be overkill, but since the attack on our capitol and plans for more on social media planned for inauguration day prompted ramped up NG presence at capitols all over the country, you think that is a double standard.
I don't think so. I think:
When the NG was called out against the summer protesters, that only made things worse.
When the NG was called out against the threat of inaugural day violence, that made things better.
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
PoliTalker (01-24-2021)
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
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