God help us. Senate confirms BLACK MAN as Secretary of Defense !!!

[Walt]

Lincoln was a politician, and that statement was a matter of - (to put it diplomatically) - "political expediency" with respect to certain, particular circumstances he had to deal with at around the time of that speech.

Dachshund

Lincoln had just been reelected in a system where there was a gentleman's agreement that he only serve two terms. In other words, he was never going to be elected to anything again, so was moving out of being a politician. At that point, he suddenly started doing extreme things, like say that Blacks should have the right to vote. That was extreme for the time, but he clearly was working towards it.

[Dachshund]

Lincoln had just been reelected in a system where there was a gentleman's agreement that he only serve two terms. In other words, he was never going to be elected to anything again, so was moving out of being a politician. At that point, he suddenly started doing extreme things, like say that Blacks should have the right to vote. That was extreme for the time, but he clearly was working towards it.

Linoln's final speech was an ad hoc affair. He took advantage of the fact that a crowd had gathered at the White House to celebrate Lee's surrender to deliver some remarks. In that final "speech" Lincoln gave CONDITIONAL support for Black suffrage, saying that the right to vote for emancipated Black be...



"...now conferred on the very intelligent and those who serve our cause as soldiers."


Why do you think he would make the qualification "conferred on the VERY intelligent" re granting the right for Blacks to vote in the US ? If Lincoln had said something like that in today's America he would be excoriated as NAZI/FASCIST/ EVIL WHITE SUPREMACIST and so on. As it happens I agree with him wholeheartedly on this point. I do not have a problem with an African-American like Thomas Sowell being granted the right to vote, nor a man like MLK. But an IQ of 85 points is, IMO, too low for anyone with that level of intelligence to be granted the right to vote; and 85 points is the AVERAGE (i.e. MEAN) IQ of the population of African-Americans in the US today ??



These comments represent an EXTRAORDINARY departure from the position he had firmly held for the previous seven years. Also, we know that in the months before his death Lincoln was working assiduously at solving the logistical and other practical problems associated with organizing the deportation of population of Blacks from the United States ????


Dachshund

[Walt]

Linoln's final speech was an ad hoc affair. He took advantage of the fact that a crowd had gathered at the White House to celebrate Lee's surrender to deliver some remarks. In that final "speech" Lincoln gave CONDITIONAL support for Black suffrage, saying that the right to vote for emancipated Black be...

White suffrage was also conditional at the time. Lincoln argued that Blacks should be treated equal to whites.

[Text Drivers are Killers]

All Darkies should be deported back to Africa. That's what Lincoln was doing before he was assassinated; that's what needs to be done now !


Dachshund

We need laws against blacks collecting welfare. They they'd leave on their own.

[Text Drivers are Killers]

I say we deport all racists to Africa. They really contribute nothing to America.

Good idea. Deport all these white-hating racist liberals who support affirmative action and want whites denied jobs just for being white.

[Bigdog]

Yes, he does. One thing about TDAK is that he consistently bitches about black people, even when Trump is president, and even when it's a conservative person. That being said, this is all he amounts to:

TDAk uses his car as a weapon on the highway, doing 55 in the fast lane. He 's a socialist authoritarian.

He and Dachsund must have shared a cell with Charles Manson. They fall for Charlie's "faux intellectual" prison con games.

[christiefan915]

<snip>
Funny how I am an Australian who has never lived in the US, though I know and understand American history better than you ??
Dachshund

[Text Drivers are Killers]

TDAk uses his car as a weapon on the highway, doing 55 in the fast lane.

so now you attack people for obeying the law??? No wonder you don't have any friends.

[Bigdog]

so now you attack people for obeying the law??? No wonder you don't have any friends.

Slow drivers blocking the passing lane cause crashes. You're not a trained law enforcement officer. You shouldn't be using a 3,000 lb. weapon as your own private, public law enforcement tool. It is legal right to pass cars if there is a dashed line..

[Minister of Truth]

TDAk uses his car as a weapon on the highway, doing 55 in the fast lane. He 's a socialist authoritarian.

He and Dachsund must have shared a cell with Charles Manson. They fall for Charlie's "faux intellectual" prison con games.

As far as TDAK is concerned, Charlie being white made him better than a guy like Thomas Sowell.

[Taichiliberal]

Linoln's final speech was an ad hoc affair. He took advantage of the fact that a crowd had gathered at the White House to celebrate Lee's surrender to deliver some remarks. In that final "speech" Lincoln gave CONDITIONAL support for Black suffrage, saying that the right to vote for emancipated Black be...



"...now conferred on the very intelligent and those who serve our cause as soldiers."


Why do you think he would make the qualification "conferred on the VERY intelligent" re granting the right for Blacks to vote in the US ? If Lincoln had said something like that in today's America he would be excoriated as NAZI/FASCIST/ EVIL WHITE SUPREMACIST and so on. As it happens I agree with him wholeheartedly on this point. I do not have a problem with an African-American like Thomas Sowell being granted the right to vote, nor a man like MLK. But an IQ of 85 points is, IMO, too low for anyone with that level of intelligence to be granted the right to vote; and 85 points is the AVERAGE (i.e. MEAN) IQ of the population of African-Americans in the US today ??



These comments represent an EXTRAORDINARY departure from the position he had firmly held for the previous seven years. Also, we know that in the months before his death Lincoln was working assiduously at solving the logistical and other practical problems associated with organizing the deportation of population of Blacks from the United States ????


Dachshund

It seems a global thing that bigots/racists/white supremacists/separatist or whatever the hell they call themselves today, just love to take things out of context and embellish them with their personal supposition and conjecture. Here's Dachshund quote in it's proper context. Mind you, he'll stubbornly hold onto his interpretation...but the rational, intelligent, objective reader will see his folly:

The amount of constituency, so to speak, on which the new Louisiana government rests, would be more satisfactory to all, if it contained fifty, thirty, or even twenty thousand, instead of only about twelve thousand, as it does. It is also unsatisfactory to some that the elective franchise is not given to the colored man. I would myself prefer that it were now conferred on the very intelligent, and on those who serve our cause as soldiers. Still the question is not whether the Louisiana government, as it stands, is quite all that is desirable. The question is, "Will it be wiser to take it as it is, and help to improve it; or to reject, and disperse it?" "Can Louisiana be brought into proper practical relation with the Union sooner by sustaining, or by discarding her new State government?"

Some twelve thousand voters in the heretofore slave-state of Louisiana have sworn allegiance to the Union, assumed to be the rightful political power of the State, held elections, organized a State government, adopted a free-state constitution, giving the benefit of public schools equally to black and white, and empowering the Legislature to confer the elective franchise upon the colored man. Their Legislature has already voted to ratify the constitutional amendment recently passed by Congress, abolishing slavery throughout the nation. These twelve thousand persons are thus fully committed to the Union, and to perpetual freedom in the state--committed to the very things, and nearly all the things the nation wants--and they ask the nations recognition and it's assistance to make good their committal. Now, if we reject, and spurn them, we do our utmost to disorganize and disperse them. We in effect say to the white men "You are worthless, or worse--we will neither help you, nor be helped by you." To the blacks we say "This cup of liberty which these, your old masters, hold to your lips, we will dash from you, and leave you to the chances of gathering the spilled and scattered contents in some vague and undefined when, where, and how." If this course, discouraging and paralyzing both white and black, has any tendency to bring Louisiana into proper practical relations with the Union, I have, so far, been unable to perceive it. If, on the contrary, we recognize, and sustain the new government of Louisiana the converse of all this is made true. We encourage the hearts, and nerve the arms of the twelve thousand to adhere to their work, and argue for it, and proselyte for it, and fight for it, and feed it, and grow it, and ripen it to a complete success. The colored man too, in seeing all united for him, is inspired with vigilance, and energy, and daring, to the same end. Grant that he desires the elective franchise, will he not attain it sooner by saving the already advanced steps toward it, than by running backward over them? Concede that the new government of Louisiana is only to what it should be as the egg is to the fowl, we shall sooner have the fowl by hatching the egg than by smashing it? Again, if we reject Louisiana, we also reject one vote in favor of the proposed amendment to the national Constitution. To meet this proposition, it has been argued that no more than three fourths of those States which have not attempted secession are necessary to validly ratify the amendment. I do not commit myself against this, further than to say that such a ratification would be questionable, and sure to be persistently questioned; while a ratification by three-fourths of all the States would be unquestioned and unquestionable.

http://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/...eches/last.htm


And of course, the old chestnut of IQ to falsely bolster the ego of these yahoos gets throw in. It's as pathetic as the OP of this thread and it's author.

[Text Drivers are Killers]

As far as TDAK is concerned, Charlie being white made him better than a guy like Thomas Sowell.

I've read a few of sowell's books and they're quite good. But i wish he was white. Being black and saying such things makes him a race traitor.

[Walt]

We need laws against blacks collecting welfare. They they'd leave on their own.

There is a lifetime limit of five years on Welfare. Assuming most Blacks have a life expectancy of over five years... Once again, your post makes little sense.

[Yakuda]

My God, you're a moron. To the IGNORE list you go. Adios, mutherfukker.

Lick my balls queer boy

[Yakuda]

Yakuda is 100% obscene troll. NO one reads his posts.

You do bcg