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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    1. The policy was not yet in effect.
    2. The policy only applied to community health centers that got Federal funds.
    3. The savings were only going to be passed on to people earning less then $44,000 who had no insurance. (No one had received these savings because the policy never went into effect.)
    4. It only passed on discounts which means if there were no discounts then no one saved any money.

    Bottom line - Your title is still a lie.
    Bottom line is Joe Biden took away the potential for this rule to help people afford care. How is it a good thing to remove helpful laws? You really don't give a shit about helping people, you just think it's a big game

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinfoil View Post
    Bottom line is Joe Biden took away the potential for this rule to help people afford care. How is it a good thing to remove helpful laws? You really don't give a shit about helping people, you just think it's a big game
    if you believe the government should do everything it takes to help americans afford health care, why are you against obamacare and universal health care? biden and his team will do more to help all americans afford decent health care than repubs have done in our history. so you can just quit crying your crocodile tears.

    Many Last-Minute Health Rules Subject to Biden 60-Day Pause (3)
    Jan. 21, 2021, 4:01 AM; Updated: Jan. 22, 2021, 11:16 AM

    HHS put out rules until Trump’s final full day
    Here are more than 20 actions now on hold

    From insulin to life-saving medical devices to last-ditch efforts to protect premature infants (including those from “live birth” abortions), multiple rules posted by the Health and Human Services Department in the final days of Donald Trump’s presidency are subject to a 60-day pause.

    The halt on Trump-era rulemaking includes two controversial rules designed to curb high drug prices—one that changes the way pharmacy liaisons and drugmakers can pay each other and another that ties Medicare rates for expensive drugs to the prices paid in other countries.

    A Wednesday memo circulated by White House Chief of Staff Ronald Klain said all rules, guidances, or other agency actions that didn’t take effect prior to noon that day—the official handover time from Trump to President Joe Biden—will be subject to review by the new administration before they can take effect. If the previous administration’s actions raise questions of “fact, law, or policy,” the designated officials now leading the agencies can further delay effective dates and consult with the Office of Management and Budget about other actions. The agencies can also open comment periods on those actions.

    If there are no such questions, no further action is needed. The rule, proposal, or guidance can be considered active and effective, the memo said.

    A regulatory pause is a common tradition among incoming presidents to ensure that the unfinished policies from the prior administration align with the new one. In many cases, there are no substantial disagreements among the two administrations and the policies can continue on their normal path. But the pause gives incoming officials a chance to weed out the actions that go against the current president’s stance.

    The HHS issued a slew of rules and other announcements in the weeks leading up to Biden’s inauguration, including a substantial change to a Medicare payment model for expensive prescription drugs as late as Jan. 19.

    https://news.bloomberglaw.com/pharma...rticle-related

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Well, that's what happens when your mindset is Trump did it, therefore it's bad and has to be stopped.
    What happens?

    YOU PEOPLE SHOULD READ THE OPED BEFORE COMMENTING. OPEY DIDN'T EVEN READ HIS OWN OPED HE REFERRED US TOO! LOL!

    SORRY BUT THIS ONE BACKFIRED LIKE A WET FART!

    BLAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    GO BIDEN! YOU DID GOOD!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinfoil View Post
    Bottom line is Joe Biden took away the potential for this rule to help people afford care. How is it a good thing to remove helpful laws? You really don't give a shit about helping people, you just think it's a big game
    My God, you are an idiot. The rule is on hold until March 22. He didn't take away any potential. He simply delayed the implementation of the rule to see if it makes sense. It isn't a law, you moron. It's an EO. A better way of helping people would be to make sure they all have health insurance but you think it is just a game when it comes to the ACA.
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    FUCKUM. Elections have consequences. This is only the beginning. The nations working poor are about to get hammered into the ground. They voted for it.... they got it. Dont bitch now...YOU DID THIS to yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Funny thing about that article. It doesn't say Biden made insulin expensive again.
    Spin all you want to Goebbels. The result is Nazi Joe makes insulin more expensive again.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    3. The savings were only going to be passed on to people earning less then $44,000 who had no insurance.
    Why do Leftists HATE the Black American poor?
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    — Joe Biden on Obama.

    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

    D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.

    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Funny thing about that article. It doesn't say Biden made insulin expensive again. It says he put on hold a rule that was finalized in late December. The thing about rules is that they don't take effect immediately. The particular rule referred to wasn't scheduled to take effect until Jan 22. Then the rule only affects some clinics and patients of those clinics making less than $44,000.


    So, your title is one big lie. The price of insulin today is the same that it was on Dec 21. Biden didn't change that price one cent. Even if the rule had gone into effect, it wouldn't have changed the cost of insulin for 90% of people getting insulin.
    Tinfoil has posted lying obnoxious crap ever since he flounced around demanding the mods ban him. He said if they don't he'd definitely troll this place. Why the guy needs them for him to quit this place speaks worlds. Expect him to post obscure shit from the bowels of the internet or misrepresent something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Why do Leftists HATE the Black American poor?
    Why do you hate them when you assume they are all without insurance? Perhaps if we expanded Medicaid and Medicare then everyone would have insurance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charoite View Post
    Tinfoil has posted lying obnoxious crap ever since he flounced around demanding the mods ban him. He said if they don't he'd definitely troll this place. Why the guy needs them for him to quit this place speaks worlds. Expect him to post obscure shit from the bowels of the internet or misrepresent something else.
    It's from Bloomberg, you fucking idiot

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    I'm glad I got my epipens before this happened.. Dang.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Good.
    do you have a reason why you believe this is good?.....
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Why do you hate them when you assume they are all without insurance? Perhaps if we expanded Medicaid and Medicare then everyone would have insurance.
    It is White Progs that view Blacks as a child-like race incapable of caring for themselves and too irresponsible to own firearms.

    Your false promise of utopian healthcare, benefits rich white women the most.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    I'm glad I got my epipens before this happened.. Dang.
    Bbbut the usurper is going to save America. He said so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Excuse for a Human View Post
    Why do you hate them when you assume they are all without insurance? Perhaps if we expanded Medicaid and Medicare then everyone would have insurance.
    Wasn't that what Obama said the ACA would accomplish?

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