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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post


    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    You left out a few things:

    a doctrine based on revolutionary Marxian socialism and Marxism-Leninism that was the official ideology of the U.S.S.R.
    b: a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production


    If you still don't get it, find a local adult to explain it to you. If you can't find any, I'll reluctantly pablum feed you on the subtle yet crucial differences.

    Oh, and only in your fevered little mind does a Socialist Democrat Hate Whitey Party exist. If you have any official information to the contrary, please produce it. Also, only a willfully ignorant right wingnut would put Chavez in the same category as you did with despots that dictators. If you can prove Chavez killed, tortured, incarcerated on an equivalent level, do it. If not, don't waste everyone's time with your worthless opinions and revisionist clap trap.

    And FYI regarding the hot mess that is Somalia https://www.un.int/somalia/somalia/country-facts

    That is not a rebuttal. Marx's whole scam hinged on selling the "dissolution of gov't" to the peasants. It was an easy sell, given the peasant hatred of the monarchial landed aristocracy.
    It is a rebuttal to your previous blather, genius...because to date you've had numerous European countries (England, Sweden, etc.) that have incorporated socialism into their gov't and social strata before my lifetime, and today are NOT the communist enclaves a'la the old Soviet Union ... much less the fascist havens as were Marco's Phillipines, or Pinochet's Chile. A matter of fact, a matter of history whether you like it or not.

    No matter how hard you try, you can't substitute your supposition, conjecture and revisionist drivel for facts and history. But big dumb dogs just keep trying. Carry on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    You left out a few things:

    a doctrine based on revolutionary Marxian socialism and Marxism-Leninism that was the official ideology of the U.S.S.R.
    b: a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production


    If you still don't get it, find a local adult to explain it to you. If you can't find any, I'll reluctantly pablum feed you on the subtle yet crucial differences.

    Oh, and only in your fevered little mind does a Socialist Democrat Hate Whitey Party exist. If you have any official information to the contrary, please produce it. Also, only a willfully ignorant right wingnut would put Chavez in the same category as you did with despots that dictators. If you can prove Chavez killed, tortured, incarcerated on an equivalent level, do it. If not, don't waste everyone's time with your worthless opinions and revisionist clap trap.

    And FYI regarding the hot mess that is Somalia https://www.un.int/somalia/somalia/country-facts

    "
    Obama's atrocious statement on Chavez's death - The ...www.washingtonpost.com › right-turn › 2013/03/06
    Mar 6, 2013 — “Hugo Chavez was a tyrant who forced the people of Venezuela to live in fear. His death dents the alliance of anti-U.S. leftist leaders in South ..."
    A little perspective for the objective reader https://fair.org/home/us-media-erase...avismos-gains/

    I'm not opening an account with the Washington Post to read the article, which seemed in a flash to be an opinion piece. Got anything else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    CA & NY to start with that DID play along. They knew they'd get a big taxpayer-paid pay day when it was all over so they let their businesses/cities get destroyed.

    "blue states like NY and CA that played along and let their cities burn and businesses destroyed will magically
    decide that everything should go back to "normal". Plus they'll have their hands out to receive a quadrillion dollars from the law abiding states to bail them out
    as ordered by Chm. Jao. Typical pattern."
    Are you fucking stupid or what? You keep repeating your initial clap trap, but in the INITIAL post you insinuated that THOSE STATES WHO DID NOT PLAY ALONG are doing so much better than NY and CA and will NOT need gov't assistance.

    I asked for PROOF....to date you have none. Also, poster Guno showed how it's the RED STATES who get a bigger chunk of gov't assistance and put back LESS into the federal coffers than say NY or CA.

    So put up or shut up, because you're not as dense as you pretend...just another insipidly stubborn and willfully ignorant right wing wonk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    That dimwit knows exactly what he said and what you asked. He’s a fucking liar, and of course, a dimwit. He thinks the virus is a hoax, but Jewish funded laser beams are real. He thinks socialism is bad, but he can’t afford to keep his parents alive, so socialism has to.

    He thinks Arkansas is carrying NY and California pod think

    A true dimwit and loser
    Yep, a prime example of a right wing troll.....willfully ignorant, insipidly stubborn and chronic liars....just the type Trump wipes his feet on.
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    CA, NY, WA, OR, WI, MI have red or blue Guvs? What states allowed a summer of love
    in the form of riots, burning and looting? What states now want bailouts from the taxpayers
    to pay for their own self destruction?
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
    which has begun. To abort life is to end it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    CA, NY, WA, OR, WI, MI have red or blue Guvs? What states allowed a summer of love
    in the form of riots, burning and looting? What states now want bailouts from the taxpayers
    to pay for their own self destruction?
    This is your original post: And, now that the political pandemic hoax is over, blue states like NY and CA that played along and let their cities burn and businesses destroyed will magically
    decide that everything should go back to "normal". Plus they'll have their hands out to receive a quadrillion dollars from the law abiding states to bail them out
    as ordered by Chm. Jao. Typical pattern.


    Now, pay attention and read s-l-o-w-l-y; the ENTIRE U.S.A. has been affected to some degree or another. You claim that it's a "hoax" (parroted QAnon/Trump idiocy) and that its now "over" (more parroted QAnon idiocy). You name blue states like NY and CA as "playing along" with the "hoax" by letting their cities burn (how you connect the civil unrest born of protests over systemic police brutality to the Covid virus is a mystery I'm sure your fevered little brain can concoct a scenario for) and businesses be destroyed (all affected cities throughout America had various levels of quarantine and shut down) so they can get more gov't relief money (an amazing plot Machievelli would've thought up while smoking some serious weed).

    So the question stands.....what red states do you name that did NOT follow the devious plot you lay out in the aforementioned? You were given PROOF by Guno that Red States receive the bulk of federal assistance money and pay back the least when compared to blue states. You have yet to factually disprove that evidence.

    So spare us all the lame ass stall tactics and answer the freaking question. If you can't, just say so and admit error. No one knows you personally and the world will trundle on. If you can't but blow more smoke or parrot the SOS, the objective reader will see you for the buffoonish right wing troll that you are. Carry on.
    During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    you pod beings are too dumb to even know how brainless you sound given the truth of the last 4 years. Here you are trying to point fingers at me for “protecting the weath of millionaire libs” .. which makes no sense whatsoever when I’m arguing FOR SOCIALISM which millionaires typically run from .. but your glaring ignorance doesn’t stop there because it is YOU WHO PROTECT THE WEALTHY, NOT ME DUMMY. You had no problem with your god/king when he gave away trillions of US to the wealthy while I support direct payments to average Americans.

    I don’t blame you for your lack of forethought before you make a fool of yourself because I recognize that you don’t have the capacity for forethought. Pod beings never do. Try again.
    The very foundation principle of Socialism is Wealth Equality. Yet, from Anderson Cooper to Jack Doresey, almost all your Socialist leaders and spokespersons are obscenely wealthy.


    If millions of children are starving in the USA, why won't they share their wealth? Why are they not held morally responsible for their own greedy immorality? Why are you happy with crumbs from their tables?

    It boggles the mind.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    — Joe Biden on Obama.

    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

    D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.

    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    I asked for PROOF....to date you have none. Also, poster Guno showed how it's the RED STATES who get a bigger chunk of gov't assistance and put back LESS into the federal coffers than say NY or CA.
    That is a function of population density per square mile in a State, it has nothing to do with political party affiliation in anyway at all.

    Guno and you make up all kinds of false causation links.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    — Joe Biden on Obama.

    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

    D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.

    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    In other words you don’t know where FDR got it from.

    WHY SOCIALISM
    BY ALBERT EINSTEIN
    Why Socialism?
    by Albert Einstein

    https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/
    “If we have to have a choice between being dead and pitied, and being alive with a bad image, we’d rather be alive and have the bad image.”

    — Golda Meir

    Zionism is the movement for the self-determination and statehood for the Jewish people in their ancestral homeland, the land of Israel.


    “If Hamas put down their weapons, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons, there would be no Israel."






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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    Why Socialism?
    by Albert Einstein

    https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/
    Einstein says Socialism is inherently flawed, and even he doesn't have any solutions to make it work.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    — Joe Biden on Obama.

    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

    D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.

    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    I asked for PROOF....to date you have none. Also, poster Guno showed how it's the RED STATES who get a bigger chunk of gov't assistance and put back LESS into the federal coffers than say NY or CA.

    That is a function of population density per square mile in a State, it has nothing to do with political party affiliation in anyway at all.

    Guno and you make up all kinds of false causation links.
    Here stupid, learn something: https://smartasset.com/taxes/states-...overnment-2020

    You and your brethren have for YEARS portrayed NY and CA (and any "blue" state) as wholly dependent on the Federal gov't, which is the basis as to their political leanings in the voting blocs.

    That is flat out wrong, and when dopes like you repeat such knowing (or willfully ignorant) that it's wrong, you are lying.

    And the arrow next to my name shows the reader the entire exchange, not just what you think you can excerpt to support YOUR OPINION (opinions are not facts, you nitwit).

    Get your head out of Limbaugh's decaying ass and GTFU!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Here stupid, learn something: https://smartasset.com/taxes/states-...overnment-2020

    You and your brethren have for YEARS portrayed NY and CA (and any "blue" state) as wholly dependent on the Federal gov't, which is the basis as to their political leanings in the voting blocs.

    That is flat out wrong, and when dopes like you repeat such knowing (or willfully ignorant) that it's wrong, you are lying.

    And the arrow next to my name shows the reader the entire exchange, not just what you think you can excerpt to support YOUR OPINION (opinions are not facts, you nitwit).

    Get your head out of Limbaugh's decaying ass and GTFU!
    I'm not going to search through your click-bait to find your quote for you.

    As I said, it's a function of population density.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    — Joe Biden on Obama.

    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

    D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.

    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post



    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Here stupid, learn something: https://smartasset.com/taxes/states-...overnment-2020

    You and your brethren have for YEARS portrayed NY and CA (and any "blue" state) as wholly dependent on the Federal gov't, which is the basis as to their political leanings in the voting blocs.

    That is flat out wrong, and when dopes like you repeat such knowing (or willfully ignorant) that it's wrong, you are lying.

    And the arrow next to my name shows the reader the entire exchange, not just what you think you can excerpt to support YOUR OPINION (opinions are not facts, you nitwit).

    Get your head out of Limbaugh's decaying ass and GTFU!

    I'm not going to search through your click-bait to find your quote for you.

    As I said, it's a function of population density.
    Typical right wing flunky......he has neither the courage or honesty to read any information that may contradict his propagandistic rhetoric and beliefs. So instead he just bluffs, blusters and parrots.

    This is just how Trump likes it....willfully ignorant and insipidly stubborn jokers like you follow his lead and NEVER admit you're wrong even in the face valid, documented historical FACTS. Hell, you make up your own "alternative facts" to support. That's why you don't have the stones for any real debate beyond a certain point. You're such a Big Dumb Dog to think that no one sees your silliness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    It always amazes me of how little real history Americans know about their own country.

    Most have no idea, no clue who Otto Van Bismark was.
    Do tell who the fuck Otto Van Bismark was? I never heard of him.

    You ever hear of Cuscowilla?
    Lemme tell you something, boy. I could walk the Florida Cracker Trail from where I live to US 27.
    I know..
    Wtf does some German dude in Europe have to do with us? What's his connection to the United States?

    It doesn't seem like you're making any sense here.
    You know who else I've heard of? Theodore Roosevelt. I'm thinking he was an alright cracker. Prove me wrong!
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    There will soon be more than 500,000 deaths from the coronovirus in the United States. We not only lead the world in deaths from the virus, it has also become the leading cause of death in this county .. all while we claim to have the best healthcare system in the world. The problem isn’t the healthcare system, the problem is the lack of attention to the American people by the previous cabal.

    Joe Biden is desperate to change all that and he will use socialism to do it. Thus today defeating the virus is the number one mission in America and Biden will turn much of America’s resources inward toward the American people. Science will be employed to help solve the problems and resources will be directed to helping the American people and it’s communities. That’s called socialism, democratic socialism to be precise and it could not come soon enough.

    Don’t like socialism or even calling it socialism? Fine, call it a chicken sandwich if it makes you feel better, but socialism is exactly what it is.
    While I haven't previously commented on this thread, I decided to tonight.

    Socialism won't solve the problem of Chinese Disease. The various pharma companies that developed vaccines did so in a Capitalist market. That is, they looked at the most cost effective and profitable means to quickly develop and test one, then used a similar Capitalist system to distribute it.

    If we were to switch to Socialism to develop such a vaccine, then the government would be directing who does what research and how. There would be no incentive to do it quickly since the companies involved would make the same money regardless. Even now, Socialist methods of distribution are less effective as they don't consider the market or factors like cost and time. Instead, they would be focused on something like We want all of X group or Y minority to get the vaccine now. That means the vaccine isn't distributed efficiently but rather by political ends.

    The second the government starts running the programs is the second the gears of progress become greased with sand.

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