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    'I am very grateful we have a new president' | DC mayor plans for statehood under Biden administration

    Asked if she believes the new administration will quickly progress D.C. to become the 51st state, an effort Washington DC mayor Muriel Bowser has long championed, she seemed hopeful.

    "We have Democratic control of the House of Representatives, the Senate and now the White House, and the leadership in all of those bodies have expressed support for D.C. Statehood," she said, adding that Joe Biden is a "longtime" supporter of the District becoming a state.

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    Nobody gives a fuck. FUCK BIDEN....NOT OUR PRESIDENT. You can give the D's a thousand senators and it STILL wont matter. You cannot govern the ungovernable. We concede nothing,....we give nothing. Build what you want but it will be without us . Good luck trying to walk on one leg....

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    If D.C. becomes a state, will the President have to move elsewhere?


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    SCOTUS would not allow a federal district to be a state as well. it's one or the other.
    Who knows? maybe even Roberts would take it up being as it's abut CREATING A STATE

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    SCOTUS would not allow a federal district to be a state as well. it's one or the other.
    Who knows? maybe even Roberts would take it up being as it's abut CREATING A STATE
    It does not require a constitutional amendment.

    All the constitution requires is a federal district not to exceed 10 square miles, but no minimum size is specified either. Legally it could be one Square mile

    Statehood would modify and shrink the federal district to just the white house, Capitol building, mall, and associated buildings. The rest of DC would become the state of Columbia.

    Perfectly legal.

    There is no overriding reason Georgetown, Foggy Bottom, Adams Morgan, Anacostia, etc. have to be part of a federal district.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    If D.C. becomes a state, will the President have to move elsewhere?

    No
    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...65#post4189865

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    It does not require a constitutional amendment.

    All the constitution requires is a federal district not to exceed 10 square miles, but no minimum size is specified either. Legally it could be one Square mile

    Statehood would modify and shrink the federal district to just the white house, Capitol building, mall, and associated buildings. The rest of DC would become the state of Columbia.

    Perfectly legal.

    There is no overriding reason Georgetown, Foggy Bottom, Adams Morgan, Anacostia, etc. have to be part of a federal district.
    That might do it, I have never heard that idea -but cant be rejected

    These are DC bedroom communities. their identity is as such and they are economically and culturally tied
    to the District however, their natural orientation

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    I get it. What I meant if D.C. becomes a complete 100% state.

    I doubt shrinking the district would be a good idea though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stone View Post
    Nobody gives a fuck. FUCK BIDEN....NOT OUR PRESIDENT. You can give the D's a thousand senators and it STILL wont matter. You cannot govern the ungovernable. We concede nothing,....we give nothing. Build what you want but it will be without us . Good luck trying to walk on one leg....
    I remember when conservatives defiantly insisted they would never, under any circumstances, accept gay marriage, legal pot, Obamacare, etc.

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    Bad idea. Leave it as a Federal District.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stone View Post
    Nobody gives a fuck. FUCK BIDEN....NOT OUR PRESIDENT. You can give the D's a thousand senators and it STILL wont matter. You cannot govern the ungovernable. We concede nothing,....we give nothing. Build what you want but it will be without us . Good luck trying to walk on one leg....
    It amazes me how important you think you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    No taxation without representation

    'I am very grateful we have a new president' | DC mayor plans for statehood under Biden administration

    Asked if she believes the new administration will quickly progress D.C. to become the 51st state, an effort Washington DC mayor Muriel Bowser has long championed, she seemed hopeful.

    "We have Democratic control of the House of Representatives, the Senate and now the White House, and the leadership in all of those bodies have expressed support for D.C. Statehood," she said, adding that Joe Biden is a "longtime" supporter of the District becoming a state.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wus...7-cf00c4095573
    District of Columbia. If residents want representation, then give DC back to the states the land was taken from. No need to make it the smallest state with TWO Senators. It'd be making a city a state. Just give it back to Maryland.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    SCOTUS would not allow a federal district to be a state as well. it's one or the other.
    Who knows? maybe even Roberts would take it up being as it's abut CREATING A STATE
    SCOTUS has no constitutional authority in admitting a State. Constitutionally that power belongs to Congress and congress only. Having said that the actual process for admitting a State is all over the place. However given that the majority of the populations of both DC and Puerto Rico have clearly favored Statehood it is probably inevitable that they will become US States as no US Territory, District or possession of the US that has applied for Statehood has failed to receive it. Though it could take a very long time. It took Alaska 90 years and Oklahoma over 100 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    District of Columbia. If residents want representation, then give DC back to the states the land was taken from. No need to make it the smallest state with TWO Senators. It'd be making a city a state. Just give it back to Maryland.

    DC was not “taken” from Maryland. That would have been blatantly Unconstitutional. The State with the agreement of the people agreed to permit that territory to be split into the District which is Constitutional.

    Now returning to the State of Maryland is a perfectly legal option but it has to be supported by a majority of the population of the District and The State of Maryland and the Districts population has made it very clear that a majority of the population prefers independent Statehood.

    So returning to the State of Maryland would appear to be off the board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    DC was not “taken” from Maryland. That would have been blatantly Unconstitutional. The State with the agreement of the people agreed to permit that territory to be split into the District which is Constitutional.
    Much the same happened in Crimea. The Crimeans voted to rejoin Russia.

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