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    Default 900,000 file for unemployment in Trump's final week

    Can we please stop the myth that "it's all about his accomplishments?"

    What has he accomplished? He is leaving America in much worse shape than when he started. On every level.

    He did nothing. No health plan, a worse economy, an energy policy that took us backwards, the most divided country in decades, and a COVID vaccination plan that the new admin has to basically start from scratch.

    An utter failure.

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    Hello BartenderElite,

    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    Can we please stop the myth that "it's all about his accomplishments?"

    What has he accomplished? He is leaving America in much worse shape than when he started. On every level.

    He did nothing. No health plan, a worse economy, an energy policy that took us backwards, the most divided country in decades, and a COVID vaccination plan that the new admin has to basically start from scratch.

    An utter failure.
    If I may paraphrase: 'But if it wasn't for COVID he made America great again!'

    To which I would reply that is BS.

    He only made it great for selfish snobs, haters and the greedy.

    For most people, things got worse.

    And the debt went through the roof.

    Ugh.
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    'We had the best economy.'

    - And the biggest debt rise during a strong economy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello BartenderElite,



    If I may paraphrase: 'But if it wasn't for COVID he made America great again!'

    To which I would reply that is BS.

    He only made it great for selfish snobs, haters and the greedy.

    For most people, things got worse.

    And the debt went through the roof.

    Ugh.
    A pretty big part of why we have an executive position is to deal with crisis. Every President has had some sort of crisis - how they deal w/ those is generally a significant part of how their time in office is measured.

    Trump failed in confronting COVID. That is really not disputable.

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    Hello BartenderElite,

    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    A pretty big part of why we have an executive position is to deal with crisis. Every President has had some sort of crisis - how they deal w/ those is generally a significant part of how their time in office is measured.

    Trump failed in confronting COVID. That is really not disputable.
    Getting this 1.9T stimulus package out will be a huge boost to the everyday economy.

    Sure, the rich are doing very well. The stock market reflects that.

    But the wise know that the stock market and the economy are two very different things.

    The stock market lags the economy by a great margin.

    The economic pain of the pandemic has yet to be reflected in the stock market.

    Lots of people are hurting, losing jobs, going homeless.

    This package is a multi-point package.

    Only part of it is another round of direct checks to Americans.

    People who are fine and don't need the money will get checks.

    Some say that is a waste.

    I'm not so sure.

    Many will simply save it but many others will take the money and buy something they may not have purchased without it.

    And THAT helps create jobs, raises, and keep people working.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    Can we please stop the myth that "it's all about his accomplishments?"

    What has he accomplished? He is leaving America in much worse shape than when he started. On every level.

    He did nothing. No health plan, a worse economy, an energy policy that took us backwards, the most divided country in decades, and a COVID vaccination plan that the new admin has to basically start from scratch.

    An utter failure.
    According to Wikipedia, during the 16 years Poppy Bush, GW Bush, and Trump were in power, only about 1 million new jobs were collectively created...over 16 years.

    Over 8 years of the years of the Obama administration, 11.6 million jobs were created.

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    you severely and willfully lack COVID context


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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    you severely and willfully lack COVID context

    Looks like Australia managed the COVID crisis substantially better than TrumpCo. Their unemployment rate only briefly spiked at 8 percent. What did ours get to? Around 15%?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    you severely and willfully lack COVID context

    Wow. Australia went from 5% to 7.5% unemployment and is now back down to 6.5%.

    Meanwhile the US went from 3.6% to 15% and is now back down to 6.7%.

    What Covid context are you trying to give us? That Australia dealt with it much better than the US under Trump?
    He that tweets much, is much mistaken

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Looks like Australia managed the COVID crisis substantially better than TrumpCo. Their unemployment rate only briefly spiked at 8 percent. What did ours get to? Around 15%?
    It spiked at 7.5%.
    He that tweets much, is much mistaken

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Wow. Australia went from 5% to 7.5% unemployment and is now back down to 6.5%.

    Meanwhile the US went from 3.6% to 15% and is now back down to 6.7%.

    What Covid context are you trying to give us? That Australia dealt with it much better than the US under Trump?
    no the context/big picture is COVID. Morons are posting Trump lost a bazillion jobs -the entire world was hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Looks like Australia managed the COVID crisis substantially better than TrumpCo. Their unemployment rate only briefly spiked at 8 percent. What did ours get to? Around 15%?
    more lock downs here?
    State that are still doing lockdowns? beats me.. the EFFECT though is the same.
    Not that I have to point out your disingenuous posts -you already know this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Wow. Australia went from 5% to 7.5% unemployment and is now back down to 6.5%.

    Meanwhile the US went from 3.6% to 15% and is now back down to 6.7%.

    What Covid context are you trying to give us? That Australia dealt with it much better than the US under Trump?
    ^ A standard statistical gimmick -- expand and exaggerate the vertical scale on the graph to make the problem look worse than it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    no the context/big picture is COVID. Morons are posting Trump lost a bazillion jobs -the entire world was hurt.
    Facts matter. Approximately 3 million more people were without jobs when Trump left office then when he entered. 3 million is not a bazillion but it is 3 million.
    He that tweets much, is much mistaken

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    The number of Americans seeking unemployment benefits fell slightly last week to 900,000, still a historically high level that points to ongoing job cuts in a raging pandemic.

    The Labor Department’s report Thursday underscored that President Joe Biden has inherited an economy that faltered this winter as virus cases spiked, cold weather restricted outdoor dining dining and federal rescue aid expired. The government said 5.1 million Americans are continuing to receive state jobless benefits, down from 5.2 million in the previous week. That suggests that while some of the unemployed are finding jobs, others are likely using up their state benefits and transitioning to separate extended-benefit programs.

    “Unemployment claims continue to show a job market unable to progress further as long as COVID-19 remains in the driver’s seat,” said Daniel Zhao, senior economist at Glassdoor. “While the vaccine offers a light at the end of the tunnel, we’re still far away from a complete reopening of the economy that could drive rehiring and stem further layoffs.”
    https://www.inquirer.com/jobs/united...-20210121.html

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