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A Total Failure’: The Proud Boys Now Mock Trump
Members of the far-right group, who were among Donald Trump’s staunchest fans, are calling him “weak” as more of them were charged for storming the U.S. Capitol.
After the presidential election last year, the Proud Boys, a far-right group, declared its undying loyalty to President Trump.
In a Nov. 8 post in a private channel of the messaging app Telegram, the group urged its followers to attend protests against an election that it said had been fraudulently stolen from Mr. Trump. “Hail Emperor Trump,” the Proud Boys wrote.
But by this week, the group’s attitude toward Mr. Trump had changed. “Trump will go down as a total failure,” the Proud Boys said in the same Telegram channel on Monday.
As Mr. Trump departed the White House on Wednesday, the Proud Boys, once among his staunchest supporters, have also started leaving his side. In dozens of conversations on social media sites like Gab and Telegram, members of the group have begun calling Mr. Trump a “shill” and “extraordinarily weak,”
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/20/t...oys-trump.html
“If we have to have a choice between being dead and pitied, and being alive with a bad image, we’d rather be alive and have the bad image.”
— Golda Meir
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“If Hamas put down their weapons, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons, there would be no Israel."
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Cypress (01-20-2021), Doc Dutch (01-20-2021), PoliTalker (01-20-2021), signalmankenneth (01-21-2021)
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Originally Posted by guno
Trump is a coward. I hope every single Proud Boy is arrested and sent to prison
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'Weak'. Throws his Supporters under the Bus. Trump was suppose to be a 'Leader'.
More like a Circus Clown.
Guno צְבִי (01-20-2021)
Never Again
They have also urged supporters to stop attending rallies and protests held for Mr. Trump or the Republican Party.
“If we have to have a choice between being dead and pitied, and being alive with a bad image, we’d rather be alive and have the bad image.”
— Golda Meir
Zionism is the movement for the self-determination and statehood for the Jewish people in their ancestral homeland, the land of Israel.
“If Hamas put down their weapons, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons, there would be no Israel."
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The Proud Boys’ anger toward Mr. Trump has heightened after he did nothing to help those in the group who face legal action for the Capitol violence. On Wednesday, a Proud Boy leader, Joseph Biggs, 37, was arrested in Florida and charged with unlawful entry and corruptly obstructing an official proceeding in the riot. At least four other members of the group also face charges stemming from the attack.
“When Trump told them that if he left office, America would fall into an abyss, they believed him,” Arieh Kovler, a political consultant and independent researcher in Israel who studies the far right, said of the Proud Boys. “Now that he has left office, they believe he has both surrendered and failed to do his patriotic duty.”
The shift raises questions about the strength of the support for Mr. Trump and suggests that pockets of his fan base are fracturing. Many of Mr. Trump’s fans still falsely believe he was deprived of office, but other far-right groups such as the Oath Keepers, America First and the Three Percenters have also started criticizing him in private Telegram channels, according to a review of messages.
“If we have to have a choice between being dead and pitied, and being alive with a bad image, we’d rather be alive and have the bad image.”
— Golda Meir
Zionism is the movement for the self-determination and statehood for the Jewish people in their ancestral homeland, the land of Israel.
“If Hamas put down their weapons, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons, there would be no Israel."
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christiefan915 (01-20-2021), PoliTalker (01-20-2021)
Honoring my oath
They can all bitch about Trump from prison.
"Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"
Guno צְבִי (01-20-2021), PoliTalker (01-20-2021)
Honoring my oath
Suppose to be, but never was. Trump was a scam artist from the beginning as many people saw. Only the weak and stupid believed Trump was more than a reality TV show host and conman.'Weak'. Throws his Supporters under the Bus. Trump was suppose to be a 'Leader'.
More like a Circus Clown.
christiefan915 (01-20-2021), Guno צְבִי (01-20-2021), Jack (01-20-2021), PoliTalker (01-20-2021)
Honoring my oath
This is an ironically great part:
"since then, discontent with Mr. Trump, who later condemned the violence, has boiled over. On social media, Proud Boys participants have complained about his willingness to leave office and said his disavowal of the Capitol rampage was an act of betrayal. And Mr. Trump, cut off on Facebook and Twitter, has been unable to talk directly to them to soothe their concerns or issue new rallying cries."
Guno צְבִי (01-20-2021), PoliTalker (01-20-2021)
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The Proud Boys may be in serious trouble
”Feds: Evidence shows well-laid plan by some Capitol insurrectionists”
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...on-plan-460836
Could be facing conspiracy to commit sedition charges
Guno צְבִי (01-20-2021), PoliTalker (01-20-2021)
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"Only the weak and stupid believed Trump was more than a reality TV show host and conman". Yes. As witnessed here by the JPP Trumptopians. How sad.
Doc Dutch (01-20-2021), Guno צְבִי (01-20-2021)
Honoring my oath
Agreed. Politically partisan extremists are rarely very bright. If they are, then they are more into fleecing the stupid than ardently supporting a nutjob cause."Only the weak and stupid believed Trump was more than a reality TV show host and conman". Yes. As witnessed here by the JPP Trumptopians. How sad.
Frankly, I've always thought it safer to fleece people with religion than politics. Too many angry nutjobs in politics.
Guno צְבִי (01-20-2021), Jack (01-20-2021)
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Hello guno,
Pride goeth before the fall...
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Guno צְבִי (01-20-2021)
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Hello guno,
Good riddance.
Republicans will be a lot better off without them.
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Guno צְבִי (01-20-2021)
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Dutch Uncle,
What???They can all bitch about Trump from prison.
No proud pardons?
I thought there were 'very fine people on both sides...'
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
Doc Dutch (01-20-2021), Guno צְבִי (01-20-2021)
Honoring my oath
Not anymore. Now Trump has washed his hands of an angry, well-armed group who are now very, very pissed off at him.
Guno צְבִי (01-20-2021)
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