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    Default Biden a Irish Nationalist!?

    I think he is an Irish Nationalist.

    Not that there's anything wrong with that.

    But, it's out of character for Democrats.

    https://www.townandcountrymag.com/so...ey-irish-poet/

    Joe Biden's Love of Irish Poet Seamus Heaney Dates Back to His Teenage Years
    "My colleagues always kid me about quoting Irish poets all the time," he once said. "They think I do it because I’m Irish. I do it because they’re the best poets."

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    I think his claim of Irish poets being the best is very subjective.

    Irish have Yeats.

    Germans have Goethe.

    English have Shakespeare.

    Poles have Adam Mickiewicz.

    Russians have Pushkin.

    Welsh have Dylan Thomas.

    French have Victor Hugo.

    Italians have Dante.

    Among various others.

    I'm not so certain Irish are the best poets.

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    Polish Americans by the 1970 s beat Irish Americans by 4 points in IQ.

    https://books.google.com/books?id=M2...Sowell&f=false

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    Quote Originally Posted by RomanDmowski View Post
    I think his claim of Irish poets being the best is very subjective.

    Irish have Yeats.

    Germans have Goethe.

    English have Shakespeare.

    Poles have Adam Mickiewicz.

    Russians have Pushkin.

    Welsh have Dylan Thomas.

    French have Victor Hugo.

    Italians have Dante.

    Among various others.

    I'm not so certain Irish are the best poets.
    Once again, the English win the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Smith View Post
    Once again, the English win the day.
    How do you know!?
    Many of the poets I listed didn't write much,if at all in English.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Smith View Post
    Learn to read English. Which English poet did you put in your list?
    Not the point I was making.
    The point is that you'd have to read a myriad of languages to be able to truly judge poetry. Even then it's still kind of subjective.

    BTW, in my personal opinion Orwell is the best English writer.

    Not the opinion of most though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Smith View Post
    Once again, the English win the day.
    I would like to put a good word in for Jonathan Swift, lesser known as a poet here is an example.

    A Beautiful Young Nymph Going to Bed
    BY JONATHAN SWIFT
    Corinna, pride of Drury-Lane
    For whom no shepherd sighs in vain;
    Never did Covent Garden boast
    So bright a battered, strolling toast;
    No drunken rake to pick her up,
    No cellar where on tick to sup;
    Returning at the midnight hour;
    Four stories climbing to her bow’r;
    Then, seated on a three-legged chair,
    Takes off her artificial hair:
    Now, picking out a crystal eye,
    She wipes it clean, and lays it by.
    Her eye-brows from a mouse’s hide,
    Stuck on with art on either side,
    Pulls off with care, and first displays ’em,
    Then in a play-book smoothly lays ’em.
    Now dexterously her plumpers draws,
    That serve to fill her hollow jaws.
    Untwists a wire; and from her gums
    A set of teeth completely comes.
    Pulls out the rags contrived to prop
    Her flabby dugs and down they drop.
    Proceeding on, the lovely goddess
    Unlaces next her steel-ribbed bodice;
    Which by the operator’s skill,
    Press down the lumps, the hollows fill,
    Up goes her hand, and off she slips
    The bolsters that supply her hips.
    With gentlest touch, she next explores
    Her shankers, issues, running sores,
    Effects of many a sad disaster;
    And then to each applies a plaister.
    But must, before she goes to bed,
    Rub off the dawbs of white and red;
    And smooth the furrows in her front
    With greasy paper stuck upon’t.
    She takes a bolus ere she sleeps;
    And then between two blankets creeps.
    With pains of love tormented lies;
    Or if she chance to close her eyes,
    Of Bridewell and the Compter dreams,
    And feels the lash, and faintly screams;
    Or, by a faithless bully drawn,
    At some hedge-tavern lies in pawn;
    Or to Jamaica seems transported,
    Alone, and by no planter courted;
    Or, near Fleet-Ditch’s oozy brinks,
    Surrounded with a hundred stinks,
    Belated, seems on watch to lie,
    And snap some cully passing by;
    Or, struck with fear, her fancy runs
    On watchmen, constables and duns,
    From whom she meets with frequent rubs;
    But, never from religious clubs;
    Whose favor she is sure to find,
    Because she pays ’em all in kind.
    Corinna wakes. A dreadful sight!
    Behold the ruins of the night!
    A wicked rat her plaster stole,
    Half eat, and dragged it to his hole.
    The crystal eye, alas, was missed;
    And puss had on her plumpers pissed.
    A pigeon picked her issue-peas;
    And Shock her tresses filled with fleas.
    The nymph, tho’ in this mangled plight,
    Must ev’ry morn her limbs unite.
    But how shall I describe her arts
    To recollect the scattered parts?
    Or shew the anguish, toil, and pain,
    Of gath’ring up herself again?
    The bashful muse will never bear
    In such a scene to interfere.
    Corinna in the morning dizened,
    Who sees, will spew; who smells, be poison’d
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    Quote Originally Posted by RomanDmowski View Post
    I think his claim of Irish poets being the best is very subjective.

    Irish have Yeats.

    Germans have Goethe.

    English have Shakespeare.

    Poles have Adam Mickiewicz.

    Russians have Pushkin.

    Welsh have Dylan Thomas.

    French have Victor Hugo.

    Italians have Dante.

    Among various others.

    I'm not so certain Irish are the best poets.
    Stuff Dillon bloody Thomas, who couldn't even pronounce his own name. Dafydd ap Gwilym is our great poet.
    Last edited by Iolo/Penderyn; 01-23-2021 at 06:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Smith View Post
    Maybe the correct pronunciation was too taffy for his taste.
    Bye bye, nazi arsehole.

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    Biden told a Polish joke.

    https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/...s-polish-joke/

    I'm not sure how he believes Irish Americans are superior over Polish Americans in intellectual capabilities!?

    Polish blooded Americans have produced some good scientists, like Nikodem Poplawski, Wojchiech Siren, Abraham Michelson, Jack Szostak, Alexander Wolczscan, Frank Wilczek, and Bronislaw Malinowski.

    Polish blooded Americans have produced some good engineers, Steve Wozniak, Frank Piasecki, Igor Sikorsky Ralph Modjeski, Stephanie Kwolek, Casinos Zegelen, Kazimierz Sendzimir, Miezyslaw G Bekker, Henryk Magnuski and, Josef Hoffman,

    Polish blooded Americans have produced some good things to medicine too like Maria Siemenow, Stanley Riddick, Walter Golaski, and Josef Cywinski.

    Irish blooded Americans in comparison are more pathetic in intellectual accomplishments.

    like Phillip Holland, James Watson.P,and presumably Thomas J Kelly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RomanDmowski View Post
    Biden told a Polish joke.
    It was not a Polish joke, nor was it an insult to Poles. It was a statement that politicians have moved away from going to ethnic clubs. There is some sarcasm in the "really smart people", but beyond that, most descendants of Polish immigrants are no longer going to the Polish American Club. And that is just using one group as an example.

    Great grandchildren of Mexican immigrants are less likely to speak Spanish than the average American. Spanish speaking is beginning to peak. Speaking Polish peaked decades ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RomanDmowski View Post
    I think he is an Irish Nationalist.
    There are a huge number of American politicians that feel a strong link to Ireland. Ireland has immense soft power for its size.

    If it makes you feel better, Poland is also beloved.

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